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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Gander Mt Guide - 11/7/2013 11:49 AM
sworrall - 11/6/2013 7:24 PM
Yes, actually you are. Look up the Wisconsin Conservation Congress. Our Governor has made some changes, but what folks in the majority vote for in fish and game management in the area in which they vote during the Spring hearings, they generally get, sometimes to the great detriment of the fishery, sometimes not. Norm, Mike and I used the system to acquire a 50" limit on Pelican. The minority wasn't very happy. That's politics...
Steve, You don't need to be a resident of any specific county to vote in the hearings right? By which I mean, if guys from Madison are strongly for Trolling, they can vote on regs for Vilas by voting up there?
I can't remember the exact rules on that, but if it's true, nothing stopping folks from making a drive up and either voting or submitting a resolution to the WCC.
Exactly. No one ever does. The meetings here are attended by pretty much the same folks every year, and completely ignored by everyone else, until an opportunity to complain about the results offers up. |
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| I believe that only 6096 people attended and voted at the annual spring hearings for the WCC. Considering that the state sells, on avg between 2001-2012, 204000 licenses a year that is only about 3% of the fisher people in the state. That's why the wcc is an advisory only committe and should be taken with a grain of salt. Its nice to know that a citizen can voice their opinion there but until they have majority numbers it should not mean a thing. As far as trolling, just because a few good old boys think its wrong doesn't mean it is. The state has reviewed an re-reviewed this issue finding no data to support its ill affects and that's why it is in favor of allowing it statewide. If any one can dispute it go ahead, but know you are a minority. Most of us citizens have no time for the good old boy hearings and neither does the dnr. Both of these beauracracies will make mistakes. Just can't please everyone. My time will be spent on the water not at a table with my pencil and paper pretending to be a politician. |
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Location: Smith Creek | Plumpers1 - 11/13/2013 2:10 PM
I believe that only 6096 people attended and voted at the annual spring hearings for the WCC. Considering that the state sells, on avg between 2001-2012, 204000 licenses a year that is only about 3% of the fisher people in the state. That's why the wcc is an advisory only committe and should be taken with a grain of salt. Its nice to know that a citizen can voice their opinion there but until they have majority numbers it should not mean a thing. As far as trolling, just because a few good old boys think its wrong doesn't mean it is. The state has reviewed an re-reviewed this issue finding no data to support its ill affects and that's why it is in favor of allowing it statewide. If any one can dispute it go ahead, but know you are a minority. Most of us citizens have no time for the good old boy hearings and neither does the dnr. Both of these beauracracies will make mistakes. Just can't please everyone. My time will be spent on the water not at a table with my pencil and paper pretending to be a politician.
So you chose not to vote on it and come on here and whine about it? Here's an idea: next year, vote for trolling throughout Wisconsin, if the majority wants the same and the law still doesn't get changed, then come here and whine about it. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i'd imagine Jay Cutler would be a troller ... |
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| There's no data supporting the ill effects of trolling... Of course there isn't. The only way to obtain that data would be to ban trolling where it is allowed and see what happens, or allow trolling where it is not and see what happens. My question for all of you is this: Where is the best musky fishing in the state of WI? Any thoughts as to why that is? |
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Location: Roscoe IL | EA,
After seeing some of the pigs coming out of Green Bay, I would say that's the best IMOP. |
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| Trolling GB is a heck of a lot different than having someone troll on a 300 acre lake. |
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Location: Mayville, WI | esoxaddict - 11/13/2013 3:45 PM
My question for all of you is this: Where is the best musky fishing in the state of WI? Any thoughts as to why that is?
Green Bay & because they can troll
(throwing out all other pertinent variables including, but not limited to: genetics, size limit, C&R ethic, size of waterbody, forage available, number of people trolling, number of people complaining about the number of people trolling, reports of good fishing from said waterbody, stocking, internet guestimators on size of fish photographed, good fishing based on average size, good fishing based on numbers caught, good fishing based on enjoyment of time spent on the water, sailboaters, good fishing based on amount of beverages consumed & affect it may have on actually memory of said fishing, water skiiers, PWC users & their competance of laws, and many others because, when it boils down to it, the best fishing in WI is all because of trolling, or not.)
Edited by scmuskies 11/13/2013 4:09 PM
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Location: Mayville, WI | Guest - 11/13/2013 4:05 PM
Trolling GB is a heck of a lot different than having someone troll on a 300 acre lake.
Of course it is! You have to dodge the water skiers.
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| If a majority of WI locals could learn catch & release I'd be in favor of legalizing trolling. Until then, and I'm not holding my breath, I think it's better to restrict their methods as much as possible. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | The majority already does CPR. Look it up. Seems like some anglers from all other muskie destinations keep a few too. |
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