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Message Subject: Making my own leaders (Seven Strand)
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Posted 10/2/2012 2:14 PM (#588505)
Subject: Making my own leaders (Seven Strand)


I bought a berkley leader making kit for like $10 bucks last fall. It came with a cheap crimper and some 45# nylon wire and some number 3 sleeves. I began making my own leaders and actually caught a 42 inch 20+ pound musky on one of my home made quick set rigs. I was estatic! So I bought some 60# and 80# nylon leader wire and some number 4 sleeves. The other day I did a test in my garage with the 60# and 80# quick set rigs and they both slipped pretty bad.

It seems like the nylon wire slips or my crimps are too weak? Do I need a real hand swager? I have been reading on the leadertec website and they say that round sleeves are for very light tackle. Do I need oval sleeves or double barrel sleeves?

I have really enjoyed making my own leaders and I want to take it to the next level. I don't ever want one of my own leaders to break or slip on the water.

Any expert tips or advice on what tools will do the job? I would like to make some pretty stout leaders.

Thank you and keep safe this fall.

stdevos
Posted 10/2/2012 2:42 PM (#588509 - in reply to #588505)
Subject: Re: Making my own leaders (Seven Strand)





Posts: 416


Location: Madtown, WI
I use 135# non-nylon 7strand for bucktail leaders and sucker rigs. I don't see any benefit for going lighter than that. I double crimp the leaders just to be safe and there is no slippage whatsoever. Also, I crimp the tag end as hard as possible with a vise grip and the slightly lighter everywhere else so that the crimp isn't cutting into the wire.

I've also seen guys make a loose knot and then crimp the tag end.
jdsplasher
Posted 10/2/2012 9:00 PM (#588595 - in reply to #588509)
Subject: Re: Making my own leaders (Seven Strand)





Posts: 2258


Location: SE, WI.

For Me , I would NEVER-EVER crimp any leader. Crimps will fail.

Buchers 7 strand leaders never had crimps. Tie a knot like they do. I have never had a knot fail on a 7 strand leader.

If you would log in, I could tell you how to tie one, or show you ...;-)

Also; another leader material you could use is twist weld. They use this stuff on sharks in the ocean. I ' ve had very good results with this stuff also and easy to use.

FEVER
Posted 10/3/2012 10:28 AM (#588675 - in reply to #588505)
Subject: Re: Making my own leaders (Seven Strand)





Posts: 253


Location: On the water
jd
I would like to know what knot to use on 7-strand, 60 lb., .018,
Thank, Tom
jdsplasher
Posted 10/3/2012 4:21 PM (#588776 - in reply to #588675)
Subject: Re: Making my own leaders (Seven Strand)





Posts: 2258


Location: SE, WI.
Tom ; You have a PM
horsehunter
Posted 10/3/2012 4:54 PM (#588778 - in reply to #588505)
Subject: Re: Making my own leaders (Seven Strand)




Location: Eastern Ontario
Me Too
erico
Posted 10/5/2012 7:53 AM (#589109 - in reply to #588505)
Subject: RE: Making my own leaders (Seven Strand)





Location: Hayward WI
Here's a short video I made with the "knot" I use on 7-strand. Only mistake was where I say I wrap it 6-8 inches around the main end, should have said 6-8 wraps.

I don't know how to get the video on the message, so here's the link.

http://video.outdoorsfirst.com/f527d073962680117a00f999f9c60edc.360...
stdevos
Posted 10/5/2012 2:29 PM (#589199 - in reply to #588505)
Subject: Re: Making my own leaders (Seven Strand)





Posts: 416


Location: Madtown, WI
Awesome, thanks!
Guest
Posted 10/5/2012 2:33 PM (#589200 - in reply to #588505)
Subject: RE: Making my own leaders (Seven Strand)


nylon leader material should be tied, not crimped. tie a simple fishing knot, cinch it tight, then slightly melt the nylon with a lighter to hold the knot. great for QS rigs.
Guest
Posted 10/11/2012 11:27 AM (#590239 - in reply to #588505)
Subject: RE: Making my own leaders (Seven Strand)


You're all gentleman and scholars in my book. Thanks for the info!



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