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| Wondering about you guys that do a lot of suspended fishing... Most of the area lakes that I fish have a max depth of 25-30'. When targeting fish in deep water, do you throw cranks like the 10" Jake, DDD, and Depthraiders very often or do you most often use use Bulldawgs or like that have the ability to fish deeper.
Reason I'm asking is I am not seeing very many fish lately in the shallower areas anymore. I believe this time of year many of the fish are moving to the deeper/cooler water where I can see all of the baitfish. However, I have had limited success fishing for suspendos. I've caught one fish on a bulldawg in 26 FOW. Other than that, in my short career (3rd year) of fishing muskies all other fish have been in shallower 2-16 FOW.
Also, I just picked up a couple 10" Jakes from Gander and was wondering how you guys have had success using them.
Any input is appreciated.
Edited by Musky Madman 7/28/2010 12:00 PM
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Location: Oconto Falls, WI | A lot of guys out there fishing suspended throw almost only rubber. For good reason as it works, and is a confidence bait. However, cranks work wonders out there as well. I use 10" Jakes quite a bit. Early in the year they are great and when I get most of the fish on Jakes. However, I will ick them up on occasion mid/late summer on a Jake if the fish are riding high. The key is finding the right depth for the day, and throwing a lure at the depth. Only way to do that is through experience. This time of year and into Aug I am usually throwing baits that get down 8' or more, and Jakes will not do that.
A tip for you out suspended...Jerk those cranks to get them to kick out sideways. You will start getting bit, and a lot more than if you are mostly just cranking.
Some days the fish only want cranks, and other days they only want rubber. Keep at it. |
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Location: APPLETON, WI | This is really good information as I've been wondering about this myself. |
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Location: Oconto Falls, WI | One more tip on Jakes. They will work as is, but they work much better for the caster if you weight them some. Jakes are a workout if you use them right. To alleviate some of that work you can weight them which will make them kick out sideways easier, and also make them rise a bit slower. I add water to mine.
Also don't overlook 8" Jakes. Some years they want the 10", and other years the 8" work better.
Here’s a thread that within contains info on how to weight. There are a couple methods.
http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=56...
Edited by CiscoKid 7/28/2010 1:28 PM
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| Good luck on your casting of 10" Jake. I don't have any but have had trouble casting 8" Jake. Too many fouls on the cast. The hooks tangle. Answer: downsize the hooks a bit. Another option is casting the 9" Grandma. It gets down much deeper that the 7". |
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Location: Oconto Falls, WI | I don’t know about issues with the hooks fouling. I have been casting them for years, and have actually upsized the hooks to 5/0 774 Eagle Claws with no issues.
You’ll see issues if you let the bait tumble through the air, or if you cast into the wind. Not too much different than a lot of baits.
Getting deeper with a Grandma isn’t always best. Sometimes if you are fishing deeper than say 4’, heck even 2’, out suspended you are fishing too deep and will see minimal action.
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| nice info cisco alot of people fish below the suspenders
along with your jakes try a Trip-D a bit smaller or a Krave they have some nice action. |
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| I gotta second the motion for the Krave baits. Great action on those things and you can get them to run 6-7 feet without much of an issue.
Just want to add a point that was in the threat, but may have gone overlooked. If you are pitching rubber at suspended fish, or really fishing any bait at suspended fish, be careful not to fish too deep. Fish rarely move down to eat, rather they prefer moving up. I've had my best luck running baits 2-4 feet down over 30 feet of water.
So, if you are hitting the depths while running deeper lures and getting no action, try running some shallower baits and see what is working.
Good luck! |
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| We have casted 9" grandmas for years , mostly deep water drop offs at the bank edge. Useing them like jerk baits,have had no tangle problems,will give ya work out but rewards outway the work outt. |
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| I cast a lot of 8" and 10" jakes i have saw some of my biggest muskie by doing so but the only tip i would say is that when you are working them in to work them like you would a jerk bait just like a few other guys said you will have a lot more fish action! I also like to use bulldogs is the same places i use the jakes both bulldogs and jakes are going to give you very high change of getting some action. The lakes i fish are very deep lakes like 130 ft. so we do a lot of just what you are talking about we fish a lot of water from 15 to 30 ft.! Good luck |
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