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Message Subject: Trolling with Dipsy's
2Rodknocker
Posted 6/12/2005 9:37 PM (#150439)
Subject: Trolling with Dipsy's




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Location: New Baden IL
I just read on the post about trolling Bulldawgs that the IN state record was caught trolling with a dipsy...Anybody try it?
How do you rig up?
What's the success rate?
Lets get something good going here!
Rodney
ToddM
Posted 6/12/2005 10:56 PM (#150451 - in reply to #150439)
Subject: RE: Trolling with Dipsy's





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Location: oswego, il
I really thought I hit on something the first time I tried it. I put on the dipsey and a 3ft leader with a vibrax bucktail and nailed a 36"er in 10 minutes. Problem was, it was about the only bait I could put behind the dipsey. I tried crankbaits but the drag just turns the dipsey over and up comes everything. I even tried a 6' leader. It takes a lure with very low drag. I suppose a bulldawg would work, not tried that. If it's cold out, you will need a strong reel. I broke 2 line counters, one the anti reverse, the other the drive gears messing with dipseys in the late fall. They really pull hard.
lobi
Posted 6/13/2005 12:04 AM (#150454 - in reply to #150439)
Subject: RE: Trolling with Dipsy's





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Location: Holly, MI
Ditto on Todds post. I tried 'em with cranks and had the dipsy tip over and shoot to the surface. Never thought about trolling somthing like a dawg with almost no restiance. Hmmmm. Would be easier than rigging up the big double planer boards. We sure catch a lot of salmon with dipseys, usually pulling a flasher/fly combo. Most of our larger fish came off the planer boards last year also so maybe away from the boat isn't a bad idea.
KARLOUTDOORS
Posted 6/13/2005 1:54 AM (#150456 - in reply to #150439)
Subject: RE: Trolling with Dipsy's





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Location: Home of the 2016 World Series Champion Cubs
Gee there's a thought. Dipsey with a spoon (daredevil, etc.). Its not like the big spoon hasnt caught its share of muskies over the years. It just has seemed to have been relegated to strictly pike anglers through the years. Why not run it out there again? The dipsey and spoon set-up is often used by the torut/salmon guys to this day.
Red Man
Posted 6/13/2005 2:17 AM (#150458 - in reply to #150439)
Subject: RE: Trolling with Dipsy's




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A person is very limited as far as what can be pulled with them and they are a problem to clear when a fish hits another line becouse of the amount of line out if your trying to get them away from the boat. A Hellhound might work with them. You can try mine this fall if you want Rod.
Freek
Posted 6/13/2005 8:31 AM (#150482 - in reply to #150439)
Subject: RE: Trolling with Dipsy's


Run the dipsey's three to four feet above the leader or make a long one. Dawgs, in line, a lipless cranks, and spoons work well with dipsy's. We did well on Cave Run working traps with dipys's and yellow birds.
2Rodknocker
Posted 6/13/2005 6:01 PM (#150555 - in reply to #150439)
Subject: RE: Trolling with Dipsy's




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Location: New Baden IL
Thanks guys! I'm definately going to give them a try. Is depth control very easy?
ToddM
Posted 6/13/2005 8:24 PM (#150577 - in reply to #150439)
Subject: RE: Trolling with Dipsy's





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Location: oswego, il
I troll in the top 10 feet mostly so I would only put out 15ft of line. I basically tried it to get presentations that could not run at those depths down there.
Michael Courtney
Posted 6/23/2006 1:03 PM (#197685 - in reply to #150451)
Subject: RE: Trolling with Dipsy's


ToddM - 6/12/2005 10:56 PM

I really thought I hit on something the first time I tried it. I put on the dipsey and a 3ft leader with a vibrax bucktail and nailed a 36"er in 10 minutes. Problem was, it was about the only bait I could put behind the dipsey. I tried crankbaits but the drag just turns the dipsey over and up comes everything. I even tried a 6' leader. It takes a lure with very low drag. I suppose a bulldawg would work, not tried that. If it's cold out, you will need a strong reel. I broke 2 line counters, one the anti reverse, the other the drive gears messing with dipseys in the late fall. They really pull hard.


The #0 Dipsys work with low drag stuff like spoons and Rapalas. I've used the #1 (bigger) Dipseys with some moderate drag stuff (2-3" plugs designed to dive to 10-15 feet) with no problems on the 3 setting (widest). These #1 Dipsys go deep and wide pretty quickly, so there's no need to put out more than 50 feet of line unless you're trying to go deeper than 20'.

For me, the Dipsys are the easiest way to keep five lines in the water while trolling: a dipsy on each side and three straight back. (In Ohio, we're allowed two lines per fisherman, so five lines are legal with 3+ fisherman in the boat.)

Keeping fish out of the other lines can be a bit tricky, but one man works the fish in the right direction, and the other fisherman work to get the closest lines reeled in quickly.

Fish in the 30" range aren't a problem. A fish 40+" might prove more difficult, hopefully I'll have a chance to report back next week.

I haven't tried higher drag stuff yet behind the Dipsys. I might not because I like to have a mix of big and small stuff out there, and it's just as easy to put the bigger, higher drag stuff straight back.

Michael Courtney
Michael Courtney
Posted 7/1/2006 5:39 PM (#198939 - in reply to #197685)
Subject: RE: Trolling with Dipsy's


My sons and I landed a couple of 38" fish this week. Getting these fish in the boat without any tangled lines was a bit of a challenge with a lot of lines in the water. We managed to get all the lines out of the water before the fish could get tangled in another line, but we had bring the fish in on the slower side to provide time to get the other lines out of the way. On the first big fish, we had her to the boat quickly, and then she exploded and just went nuts. Fortunately, she made a long run in a direction that didn't tangle other lines, or it could have been ugly. She went behind the boat and somehow managed to avoid getting tagled in the motor and the sonar sensor. We then pulled the other lines in so quickly that we had a mess of tangled lines once we finally landed the fish.

On the second 38" fish, we were much more methodical, carefully bringining in and carefully stowing the other lines while taking care not to bring the fish in too close until there was plenty of room alongside the boat to net the fish. Maybe some of you guys can bring in a 38" fish with complete control of where it gets netted, but we're not that good yet.

Michael Courtney
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