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polarkraftdave
Posted 11/7/2011 6:00 PM (#523890)
Subject: Umbrella or Alabama rig ?




Posts: 256


Location: Valpo IN
Have you guys seen these yet ? Looks like a another new lure everyone needs. Great for catching suspended fish I say they need a muskie version.
Basschamp167
Posted 11/7/2011 7:14 PM (#523898 - in reply to #523890)
Subject: Re: Umbrella or Alabama rig ?




Posts: 230


I've seen them, a guy on our bass team just bought one. Pretty cool, can't wait to see how he does with it. I agree, a muskie version is definitely necessary, I'd buy one
Zib
Posted 11/8/2011 12:07 PM (#523971 - in reply to #523890)
Subject: RE: Umbrella or Alabama rig ?





Posts: 1405


Location: Detroit River

My buddy bought an Umbrella rig that the saltwater guys use. We tried it out last year on SC. It looked sweet with 5 bucktails hooked up to it. Didn't catch anything on it but then again we didn't fish it that long due to the fish hitting Lokes that day.
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Muskiemetal
Posted 11/8/2011 12:22 PM (#523973 - in reply to #523890)
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Posts: 676


Location: Wisconsin
Probably going to run into some legalities with those rigs....
KARLOUTDOORS
Posted 11/8/2011 8:50 PM (#524019 - in reply to #523973)
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Location: Home of the 2016 World Series Champion Cubs
Muskiemetal - 11/8/2011 12:22 PM

Probably going to run into some legalities with those rigs....


For sure. Saw that rig years ago used for stripers and the first vthing that came to mind was m u s k i e s......... not legal for skies in illinois. likely the same in mn, wi, mi.
Mullhead
Posted 11/8/2011 8:59 PM (#524021 - in reply to #524019)
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Posts: 286


Location: VA
Looks like a good way to get a musky tangled up. Foul hooked, hooked in the eyes etc. Big difference between fighting a spotted bass and a musky. No thanks
reelman
Posted 11/8/2011 9:43 PM (#524025 - in reply to #523890)
Subject: Re: Umbrella or Alabama rig ?




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What the heck would you use to retrieve one of these rigged with 5 CowGirls???
sworrall
Posted 11/9/2011 12:07 AM (#524033 - in reply to #523890)
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
A truck.
CU301DSV
Posted 11/9/2011 2:32 AM (#524034 - in reply to #524033)
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Location: Canada
sworrall - 11/9/2011 1:07 AM

A truck.

Ford, Chevy, Dodge or Toyota?
TJ DeVoe
Posted 11/9/2011 5:21 AM (#524036 - in reply to #524034)
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Posts: 2323


Location: Stevens Point, WI
The A-Rig is the hottest thing going in the bass world that's come in a very long time. Finding one is nearly impossible and if you do, you'll certainly be paying three times the retail price for a bass version. Pretty crazy how deadly they are on suspended fish.
jkslayer135
Posted 11/9/2011 6:15 AM (#524038 - in reply to #523890)
Subject: Re: Umbrella or Alabama rig ?




Posts: 283


Can someone post a pic of one of these
psv
Posted 11/9/2011 7:28 AM (#524042 - in reply to #523890)
Subject: RE: Umbrella or Alabama rig ?




Posts: 469


Location: MN

I assume we are talking about this rig:

Umbrella rig 

Zib
Posted 11/9/2011 7:47 AM (#524045 - in reply to #524019)
Subject: Re: Umbrella or Alabama rig ?





Posts: 1405


Location: Detroit River
KARLOUTDOORS - 11/8/2011 9:50 PM

Muskiemetal - 11/8/2011 12:22 PM

Probably going to run into some legalities with those rigs....


For sure. Saw that rig years ago used for stripers and the first vthing that came to mind was m u s k i e s......... not legal for skies in illinois. likely the same in mn, wi, mi.


The legality in most states will depend on how many hooks are on the rig. In Michigan you are allowed up to 6 hooks (trebles count as 1 hook) on a line.

I thought the rig looked cool in the water when we used it but it would be a mess if a musky hit that thing.
Trollindad
Posted 11/9/2011 8:52 AM (#524049 - in reply to #523890)
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it is............
I ran it with rubber storm shads, cut the single hook off most, added a treble to the trailing one....

it took me 3 trips to get it to run right/work and I have not run it since. It was tricky to get it weighted correctly and stay balanced. That was 6 years ago. I used saltwater umbrella rigs.
reelman
Posted 11/9/2011 8:56 AM (#524050 - in reply to #524033)
Subject: Re: Umbrella or Alabama rig ?




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sworrall - 11/9/2011 12:07 AM

A truck.


LOL! but what gear ratio would you want on the rear end of the truck? High gear for burning or low gear for easy of retrieve on your truck? Stick shift or automatic? 2WD or 4X4? Oh just think of the threads and debates we could have about this?
MartinTD
Posted 11/9/2011 9:04 AM (#524052 - in reply to #523890)
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rjhyland
Posted 2/20/2012 8:02 PM (#540077 - in reply to #523890)
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Posts: 456


Location: Kansas City BBQ Capitol of the world
I seen these at Cabellas this past weekend and they had a whole display of different types and I thought he same thing for Muskies. I looked them up on Youtube and found this nice little clip of an Umbrella rig running like a school of baitfish here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO3PqJzFYCE&feature=related
Has anyone played around with these, customized one or had any luck? I might need a rod that can throw 6 Bulldawgs LOL.
Thanks, Ron
horsehunter
Posted 2/20/2012 8:40 PM (#540090 - in reply to #523890)
Subject: Re: Umbrella or Alabama rig ?




Location: Eastern Ontario
In Ontario you are only allowed 4 hooks. At the Fishing Show yesterday saw some 4 arm versions. How bout a 4 arm with 4 Water Wolf Shadzillas with the treble removed for fall trolling on the Larry. I always fish the shadzilla the way they origionally came without the treble.
Kirby Budrow
Posted 2/20/2012 9:33 PM (#540105 - in reply to #523890)
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Location: Chisholm, MN
In MN you could put 5 baits on one and have hooks on just one of the baits. That one bait would need to stand out with a different color or be set back farther. I think it would work nicely if you have something to throw it with. Otherwise just troll it.
ILmuskie
Posted 2/20/2012 10:48 PM (#540115 - in reply to #523890)
Subject: RE: Umbrella or Alabama rig ?


It's legal on some waters in Illinois. You can throw the A-Rigs on any lake without the 2 lure per line regulation (Shelbyville and Kinkaid for example). It might be worth talking to a CO to get his interpretation of whether using "dummy" baits along with two hooked baits is acceptable.
pike2772
Posted 2/21/2012 7:46 AM (#540148 - in reply to #523890)
Subject: Re: Umbrella or Alabama rig ?




Posts: 147


Location: Chesterton, Indiana
I saw these this past weekend at the Cabelas in Hammond Indiana. It had a sign above them saying use at your own risk the DNR has not ruled if these are legal to use or not. Personally I don't want to ever walk a line where you can be in trouble with a CO so none of these will be bought by me.
Zensurfer
Posted 3/7/2012 8:58 PM (#544437 - in reply to #523890)
Subject: RE: Umbrella or Alabama rig ?


I made my own alabama rigs. I bought utility marker flags a farm store. I put tow wires together, bent them in half so the ends met, then put them if a vice with the loops sticking out. Then i stuck a screw driver through it and twisted serveral time to form the eye and bring the wire together. At the end of each arm I bent the wire back a few inches, put on BIG snap swivels I bought from Lureparts.com, and then looped the wire around itself two times. The wire is stiff so it takes some hefty pliar. Time the wire that's left over back down. You're done. I used plumber's epoxy, the play dough type stuff that you knead together, formed the shape of a fish head with it and put it on the wrapped wire just below the eye. It provied a little extra weight. Painted that chautruse , made a black eye on each side and I am read to fish. Screw 25.00, U dont have two bucks in this rig. Wire flags .14 each, BIG snaps .15 each, epoxy about 3.00 and enough to do several rigs.
Zensurfer
Posted 3/7/2012 9:00 PM (#544438 - in reply to #523890)
Subject: RE: Umbrella or Alabama rig ?


Indiana ruled they are legal through March of 2013 while they study.
Ralph
Posted 6/9/2012 4:53 PM (#564250 - in reply to #523890)
Subject: RE: Umbrella or Alabama rig ?


The "umbrella rig" is legal in every state and in Canada. The only stipulations is that some states allow only on of the lures with a hook, or two, or three or five. So all you have to do in some states is rig some of the lures with dummy lures.....they are there but they don't have a hook on them. You always want the trailer lure to have a hook on it regardless of how many lures you throw (3-arm, or 5-arm). Meat and Potatoes Tackle Co has a musky version in 3-arm or 5-arm.
spaceman
Posted 10/19/2012 7:53 AM (#591858 - in reply to #523890)
Subject: RE: Umbrella or Alabama rig ?


You can use it as an attractor in front of anybait (crank, bucktail, etc).

I never used it but plan to get one before next season

see the one with willow leafs spoon sold here:

http://www.fudallytackle.com/index.php?categoryID=18
gregk9
Posted 10/19/2012 9:37 AM (#591885 - in reply to #524021)
Subject: Re: Umbrella or Alabama rig ?





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Location: North Central IL USA
Mullhead - 11/8/2011 8:59 PM

Looks like a good way to get a musky tangled up. Foul hooked, hooked in the eyes etc. Big difference between fighting a spotted bass and a musky. No thanks


I agree.

Wouldn't use one for bass fishing either. What's next, a trawl???
MuskieSwede
Posted 10/19/2012 3:57 PM (#591971 - in reply to #523890)
Subject: Re: Umbrella or Alabama rig ?




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Not very responsible of people to fish with these darn things, you'll get way to many fish hooked badly in the eyes or gills.
But if you don't care about the fishes health then knock yourself out...
tincan
Posted 10/20/2012 9:35 PM (#592202 - in reply to #591858)
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spaceman - 10/19/2012 7:53 AM

You can use it as an attractor in front of anybait (crank, bucktail, etc).

I never used it but plan to get one before next season

see the one with willow leafs spoon sold here:

http://www.fudallytackle.com/index.php?categoryID=18


heres one of those in action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0YsvaxEjx8
reelman
Posted 10/21/2012 12:17 PM (#592255 - in reply to #523890)
Subject: Re: Umbrella or Alabama rig ?




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NEver used one but I don't think the foul hooking will actually be much of a problem. When the fis his hooked on one of the baits the resistance of the fish pulls that bait to the rear and the other baits will be in front of the fish.
riverrat09
Posted 10/22/2012 4:57 PM (#592523 - in reply to #591971)
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Posts: 132


Location: Missouri
MuskieSwede - 10/19/2012 3:57 PM

Not very responsible of people to fish with these darn things, you'll get way to many fish hooked badly in the eyes or gills.
But if you don't care about the fishes health then knock yourself out...


I think this assumption is a bit over the top... Then I guess it's probably not very responsible for us to fish with a lure (crankbait, bucktail, etc..) that has multiple treble hooks on it either.
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