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Message Subject: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel
Vilas15
Posted 1/19/2021 9:21 PM (#973968)
Subject: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel




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https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Daiwa_Prorex_TWS_Casting_Reels/descp...

Just saw the announcement on the Daiwa instagram page. Specifically designed for musky and they're making a prorex musky rod as well. Looks pretty nice with the jigging handle. If I were needing to replace my Lexa 400 I'd consider it.
Slime King
Posted 1/20/2021 7:47 AM (#973984 - in reply to #973968)
Subject: Re: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel





Posts: 492


Location: midwest
Looks like a T-wing Lexa 400.
monsterlures
Posted 1/20/2021 9:00 AM (#973986 - in reply to #973968)
Subject: Re: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel




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20 dollars more than a tranx 400 or toro beast t3.
Could explain why daiwa didnt release the tatula 400 in the US market.

nar160
Posted 1/20/2021 9:02 AM (#973987 - in reply to #973968)
Subject: Re: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel




Posts: 408


Location: MN
Check out the weight difference - 12.2 oz vs 17.3 oz for Lexa HD. There's a slight reduction in line capacity too (175 vs 190 of 20 lb mono)
Mojo1269
Posted 1/20/2021 9:30 AM (#973990 - in reply to #973968)
Subject: Re: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel





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I'm curious what the drag is... Not mentioned on the Insta post or on Tackle Warehouse's sight...
Pa Tigers n trout
Posted 1/20/2021 9:40 AM (#973991 - in reply to #973990)
Subject: Re: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel




Posts: 265


Location: Central Pennsylvania
After checking the Daiwa website, they say the new prorex tw has between 24.2 lbs and 28.7 lbs (depending on the model). It seems that this reel might be a very worthy competitor for all the reels on the market currently!

EDIT: And their 8.1:1 has a supposed IPT of 42.9 Inches.
Mojo1269
Posted 1/20/2021 10:08 AM (#973993 - in reply to #973991)
Subject: Re: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel





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Pa Tigers n trout - 1/20/2021 9:40 AM

After checking the Daiwa website, they say the new prorex tw has between 24.2 lbs and 28.7 lbs (depending on the model). It seems that this reel might be a very worthy competitor for all the reels on the market currently!

EDIT: And their 8.1:1 has a supposed IPT of 42.9 Inches.


Could be...with the exception of the 500 Tranx... Still the Gold standard IMHO....
monsterlures
Posted 1/20/2021 10:49 AM (#973998 - in reply to #973968)
Subject: Re: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel




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interestingly, its heavier than the 400 size tatula (346grm vs 335grm) but has a smaller line capacity (20/175 vs 25/180). The drag appears to be the same on paper, both reels with the 7.1 gear ratio have 28.7lb of drag.
Rotorhead
Posted 1/20/2021 11:09 AM (#974001 - in reply to #973968)
Subject: RE: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel




Posts: 157


Location: West Central WI
I couldn't help myself and ordered one from Tackle Warehouse. Can't order from their website because they aren't in stock yet, but expected in the next day or two, so I was able to order over the phone. Ordered the 7.1:1 reel. I'm going to order parts to build a color matching muskie rod to go with it just for fun. Planning on an 8'6" heavy/fast rod, but may go to 9' before I get around to ordering.
Pa Tigers n trout
Posted 1/20/2021 12:00 PM (#974005 - in reply to #974001)
Subject: RE: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel




Posts: 265


Location: Central Pennsylvania
Rotorhead - 1/20/2021 11:09 AM

I couldn't help myself and ordered one from Tackle Warehouse. Can't order from their website because they aren't in stock yet, but expected in the next day or two, so I was able to order over the phone. Ordered the 7.1:1 reel. I'm going to order parts to build a color matching muskie rod to go with it just for fun. Planning on an 8'6" heavy/fast rod, but may go to 9' before I get around to ordering.


Please do a review on this reel when ever you get this reel and build the rod! I am interested in it compared to the 400 tranx.
Rotorhead
Posted 1/20/2021 12:11 PM (#974006 - in reply to #974005)
Subject: RE: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel




Posts: 157


Location: West Central WI
The lake I live on is rock solid right now, but I'll set a reminder for sometime in May when the ice is gone and the rod is built. I won't be fishing for muskies until muskie opener on May 22nd but will be throwing baits off my dock before then. I could put it on any of my rods when i get the reel, but the new one will be built by then.
Muskyrookie
Posted 1/20/2021 2:24 PM (#974025 - in reply to #974006)
Subject: RE: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel




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Only coming with a jigging handle? Those of you with the beast that came with all 3, how often did you use this style ? Wouldn't constantly retrieving with a jig handle be awkward and wobbly? No counter balance is how they saved some weight. It isnt just $320. Add in the price of a different handle. I do love the t wing. Finally comes in left with all speeds.. Boils down to are the upgrades worth an extra $75 or so
danlaboucane
Posted 1/22/2021 6:54 AM (#974136 - in reply to #973968)
Subject: Re: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel





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the handle is adjustable !
Rotorhead
Posted 1/26/2021 4:35 PM (#974412 - in reply to #973968)
Subject: Re: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel




Posts: 157


Location: West Central WI
Looks like the new expected arrival date for the reels is May 31st at Tackle Warehouse. Kind of a surprise when I was led to believe it would be late last week when I ordered the reel. The more I read about this, the more I'm looking forward to giving this reel a good tryout. Could be just another item affected by the Covid pandemic.
Slobasaurus
Posted 1/28/2021 9:12 AM (#974476 - in reply to #973968)
Subject: Re: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel





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Location: Chicago, IL
Rotorhead- just a heads up that N. WI musky opener is 5/29. When i saw 5/22 i was nervous i was going to be a week late to the dance and would have to move my plans around.
Rotorhead
Posted 1/28/2021 12:40 PM (#974487 - in reply to #974476)
Subject: Re: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel




Posts: 157


Location: West Central WI
Slabasaurus, I was using the regs on the Wisconsin DNR site which still have the 20/21 regs still posted. I accounted for the one-day shift for the 21/22 year regs and guessed wrong when we're at the point of a week shift for the dates. I didn't actually expect someone would do their research. I like that so maybe we should fish sometime.
Handy1
Posted 4/22/2021 10:52 AM (#979304 - in reply to #973968)
Subject: Re: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel





Posts: 42


Location: Mississippi
How much 80lbs braid will this reel hold? I'm either adding another Shimano Tranx 400HG or the new Daiwa Prorex 400 7:1 ratio. I already have two Tranx 400PG with HG handles. By my figures, I'm coming up with about 100-110 yards of 80lbs braid on Prorex 400?
Chemi
Posted 4/23/2021 8:40 AM (#979329 - in reply to #979304)
Subject: Re: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel





Handy1 - 4/22/2021 11:52 AM How much 80lbs braid will this reel hold? I'm either adding another Shimano Tranx 400HG or the new Daiwa Prorex 400 7:1 ratio. I already have two Tranx 400PG with HG handles. By my figures, I'm coming up with about 100-110 yards of 80lbs braid on Prorex 400?

Daiwa's web site say's for J-braid( https://daiwa.us/products/prorex-tw ):

40/260, 50/235

So for 80 lb I'd estimate a little under 200 yds.

miket55
Posted 4/23/2021 9:19 AM (#979330 - in reply to #979329)
Subject: Re: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel




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Location: E. Tenn
Chemi - 4/23/2021 9:40 AM

Handy1 - 4/22/2021 11:52 AM How much 80lbs braid will this reel hold? I'm either adding another Shimano Tranx 400HG or the new Daiwa Prorex 400 7:1 ratio. I already have two Tranx 400PG with HG handles. By my figures, I'm coming up with about 100-110 yards of 80lbs braid on Prorex 400?

Daiwa's web site say's for J-braid( https://daiwa.us/products/prorex-tw ):

40/260, 50/235

So for 80 lb I'd estimate a little under 200 yds.



Ran the #s through this reel capacity calculator, and came up with 160 yds.

https://www.pattayafishing.net/fishing-reel-line-capacity-estimator/

A few yards of 20# backing and a 150 yd spool of 80# should work perfectly.
Handy1
Posted 4/23/2021 9:53 AM (#979332 - in reply to #979330)
Subject: Re: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel





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Location: Mississippi
Thank you!
Rotorhead
Posted 6/1/2021 10:02 PM (#980383 - in reply to #974005)
Subject: RE: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel




Posts: 157


Location: West Central WI
At the request of Pa Tigers n Trout, I'll do a quick review of the Prorex. I ordered the 400H-P 7.1:1. Received today and immediately noticed that it is about the size of the Diawa 300 I have which accounts for the lighter weight of the reel. It's visibly smaller than two Diawa Lexa 400's I have. I loaded to full with exactly 110 yds of Tuff line 80 lb braid, which was more than enough, and mounted on a 9' XH medium-fast MHX blank custom muskie rod. I skipped the backing and taped the line to the reel like with all my other reels (have never had one slip). I live on Lake Wissota so went to my dock and threw a Double Cowgirl (10's), a Show Girl (8's), a Spanky (8's), an 8 oz Bull Dawg, and an 8" Sabile Magic Swimmer. I was looking for power and line pick-up. Casting was super easy and of all my reels, this Prorex is the quietest and I would say, almost silent with excellent distance with little effort with the mag break set at 10 of 20. The handle has a short mounting hole and a longer mounting hole. I used the short one, requiring a little more force on my part for higher drag baits. I did not try the longer setting for more torque. Line pick-up on low drag baits was very good at 7.1. For me, that's the limit but I'm sure some would like the 8.1:1. Double 10's were a bit much for me as I just can't handle those more than a dozen casts if I want to burn them. Double 8's were acceptable but my other two Lexa's will probably handle them better. The big mystery is the durability, which will take a season or more to develop an opinion. The hype is that they were built tough for muskie so my hope is that they live up to the task. Is it worth $320? I'm comfortable with that price at this point. I got this reel for line pick up and it more than meets that for me. I have seven other very good reels so not in a hurry to get another one.
Muskyrookie
Posted 6/1/2021 10:31 PM (#980385 - in reply to #980383)
Subject: RE: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel




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Rotorhead - 6/1/2021 11:02 PM

At the request of Pa Tigers n Trout, I'll do a quick review of the Prorex. I ordered the 400H-P 7.1:1. Received today and immediately noticed that it is about the size of the Diawa 300 I have which accounts for the lighter weight of the reel. It's visibly smaller than two Diawa Lexa 400's I have. I loaded to full with exactly 110 yds of Tuff line 80 lb braid, which was more than enough, and mounted on a 9' XH medium-fast MHX blank custom muskie rod. I skipped the backing and taped the line to the reel like with all my other reels (have never had one slip). I live on Lake Wissota so went to my dock and threw a Double Cowgirl (10's), a Show Girl (8's), a Spanky (8's), an 8 oz Bull Dawg, and an 8" Sabile Magic Swimmer. I was looking for power and line pick-up. Casting was super easy and of all my reels, this Prorex is the quietest and I would say, almost silent with excellent distance with little effort with the mag break set at 10 of 20. The handle has a short mounting hole and a longer mounting hole. I used the short one, requiring a little more force on my part for higher drag baits. I did not try the longer setting for more torque. Line pick-up on low drag baits was very good at 7.1. For me, that's the limit but I'm sure some would like the 8.1:1. Double 10's were a bit much for me as I just can't handle those more than a dozen casts if I want to burn them. Double 8's were acceptable but my other two Lexa's will probably handle them better. The big mystery is the durability, which will take a season or more to develop an opinion. The hype is that they were built tough for muskie so my hope is that they live up to the task. Is it worth $320? I'm comfortable with that price at this point. I got this reel for line pick up and it more than meets that for me. I have seven other very good reels so not in a hurry to get another one.


Nice write up! How do you like the castabiility and non balanced handle compared to the counterbalanced on the others? I also have a lexa 400 hd and lexa 300 wn and some tatulas for bass. I've come to realize that daiwa drastically overestimates their reel line capacity. I bought a 300 yard spool cortland masterbraid 80lb with the thoughts of filling the 400 and mostly filling an Abu revo toro s61 and wiping out the spool. Wasn't even close! Still have at least 60 yards left on that spool. Since that I've started to buy the 300 yard spools and walk off 100 yards and fill the rest of the way with mono. On 1 of the tatula reels I tried to put 100 yards of 50lb power pro and could only get like 75 yards worth when I should've been able to get more like 110 going by mono diameter. Same thing for all of them other daiwa reels. Bottom line is nice reels with waaay overestimated line capacity. Just wanted to add that in case others needed to know. Unless you troll 100 yards is plenty!
Rotorhead
Posted 6/2/2021 7:23 AM (#980387 - in reply to #980385)
Subject: RE: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel




Posts: 157


Location: West Central WI
Muskierookie, while the non-counter balanced handle looks strange, I didn't find it distracting. I have a Diawa Lexa 400 pwr-p with a power handle that i'm used to so the Prorex feels fine except for the handle is about 1/4" longer than the pwr-p in the shorter setting. Unless I bump it during a cast, I doubt it will engage on it's own. One thing I didn't mention is that with the Prorex being closer the Diawa 300, it is easier to palm than a normal 400 size. I'm actually looking forward to using this reel a lot. I have a Tatula reel and I like the new TWS system on this Prorex that they borrowed from the Tatula design.
Muskyrookie
Posted 6/2/2021 12:11 PM (#980392 - in reply to #980387)
Subject: RE: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel




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Thanks for the info, with a smaller frame and non counterbalanced handle they shaved off a good bit of weight. I like that twing system too, less drag for smoother casting. The only negative it has is connecting knots which get hung up in it. Which is also why I started using certain amounts of line to avoid waste and issues. Enjoy your new toy!
sworrall
Posted 6/2/2021 2:06 PM (#980394 - in reply to #973968)
Subject: Re: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
https://www.outdoorsfirst.com/article/daiwa-reel-youve-been-waiting-...

Look at the news tab every day, lots of new tackle and industry stuff there. Here's some new Daiwas, release came in today.
Muskyrookie
Posted 6/2/2021 8:21 PM (#980397 - in reply to #980394)
Subject: Re: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel




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Too bad they didn't come out with these for the holiday season might have picked one up.
jonsie
Posted 6/18/2021 10:51 PM (#980749 - in reply to #973968)
Subject: Re: New Daiwa Prorex 400 size reel




Posts: 25


Location: South Central PA
My question is about the T wing. I fish in PA so we fish most of the winter with only loosing maybe a month of winter due to the river ice. With all baitcasters fishing in low 30 degree temps ice builds up the line guide. How bad would that mess up the T wing. Would it keep it locked down in the reeling position? If it does - I would be afraid it would break the T wing as opposed to just not letting line out of the normal line guides. This is a question - not a statement. Could someone comment on this?
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