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kdawg
Posted 3/8/2022 1:11 PM (#1003295)
Subject: Locking gas caps for boats




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With gas prices at an all time record high, it will ultimately lead to gas theft from boats during the night. Does anyone know of a locking gas cap for boats? Kdawg
North of 8
Posted 3/8/2022 1:38 PM (#1003299 - in reply to #1003295)
Subject: RE: Locking gas caps for boats




kdawg - 3/8/2022 1:11 PM

With gas prices at an all time record high, it will ultimately lead to gas theft from boats during the night. Does anyone know of a locking gas cap for boats? Kdawg


Back in 2008, gas theft from boats on lifts and at docks was a problem in the northwoods. My neighbor had the whole tank stolen out of his. But, when I mentioned getting a locking gas cap for my pontoon, which has a large internal tank, my buddy talked me out of it. He said he kept about 5 gallons in his boat and that way if they did steal from him, not that big of a loss. His thought was you put a locking cap on and the kind of scum bag that steals gas gets ticked and takes a knife to your mooring cover or upholstery, you have much bigger problem. Couple of quick slashes and you are out hundreds, if not thousands of dollars.
OH Musky
Posted 3/8/2022 5:14 PM (#1003313 - in reply to #1003295)
Subject: Re: Locking gas caps for boats




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Location: SW Ohio
I don't think you can siphon fuel out of the fill tube due to the fill level limiter on a lot of boats but you could cut the hose to the motor and siphon it that way. Would take a lot longer with the smaller fuel hose, though.
kdawg
Posted 3/10/2022 7:00 AM (#1003359 - in reply to #1003299)
Subject: RE: Locking gas caps for boats




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Thieves have tunnel vision. What do they get out of damaging property. Nothing. I realize a locking gas cap is NOT fool proof, but if I could deter them to move on down to the next dock, it works for me. I intend on protecting my fuel purchases and not being the guy filling out a police report. Kdawg
Brian Hoffies
Posted 3/10/2022 8:29 AM (#1003361 - in reply to #1003295)
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Make up a sticker that says "Diesel fuel only" and put it near your fill cap.
kdawg
Posted 3/10/2022 8:41 AM (#1003363 - in reply to #1003361)
Subject: Re: Locking gas caps for boats




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Brian Hoffies - 3/10/2022 8:29 AM

Make up a sticker that says "Diesel fuel only" and put it near your fill cap.
Thieves, more often than not, sell what they steal. Fuel is fuel. Kdawg
miket55
Posted 3/10/2022 9:26 AM (#1003366 - in reply to #1003295)
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Location: E. Tenn
I saw a post on social media, where somebody talked about leaving a 5 gal. can of sugar water in plain sight..
CincySkeez
Posted 3/10/2022 3:42 PM (#1003374 - in reply to #1003313)
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OH Musky - 3/8/2022 5:14 PM

I don't think you can siphon fuel out of the fill tube due to the fill level limiter on a lot of boats but you could cut the hose to the motor and siphon it that way. Would take a lot longer with the smaller fuel hose, though.


This is correct.
North of 8
Posted 3/11/2022 12:20 PM (#1003402 - in reply to #1003374)
Subject: Re: Locking gas caps for boats




CincySkeez - 3/10/2022 3:42 PM

OH Musky - 3/8/2022 5:14 PM

I don't think you can siphon fuel out of the fill tube due to the fill level limiter on a lot of boats but you could cut the hose to the motor and siphon it that way. Would take a lot longer with the smaller fuel hose, though.


This is correct.


I can't find anything about this in my manual but would my 2003 Lund Pro V have that fill level limiter? I keep it on a covered lift most to of the time and someone would have to be a contortionist to get at the gas cap without a key to the lift motor but was just wondering. Thanks
ToddM
Posted 3/11/2022 9:28 PM (#1003431 - in reply to #1003295)
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Were there alot of boat gas thefts when gas was this high 3 presidents ago?

Edited by ToddM 3/11/2022 9:28 PM
North of 8
Posted 3/12/2022 7:18 AM (#1003438 - in reply to #1003431)
Subject: Re: Locking gas caps for boats




ToddM - 3/11/2022 9:28 PM

Were there alot of boat gas thefts when gas was this high 3 presidents ago?


Back in 2008 there were a number of thefts in Oneida and Vilas counties. Mostly from boats at docks, One neighbor had the tank stolen, another who was a retired cop and night owl heard people by the lake and when he opened the door a boat roared away from his dock, no lights
sworrall
Posted 3/12/2022 12:37 PM (#1003444 - in reply to #1003295)
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People will steal anything of value. I've had gas stolen for my truck and boat, but it's been a while. Now with video security and automatic lighting installed around the property, it's a bit more dangerous.
North of 8
Posted 3/12/2022 2:09 PM (#1003446 - in reply to #1003444)
Subject: Re: Locking gas caps for boats




sworrall - 3/12/2022 12:37 PM

People will steal anything of value. I've had gas stolen for my truck and boat, but it's been a while. Now with video security and automatic lighting installed around the property, it's a bit more dangerous.


My son got me a motion detector flood light with a wi fi video that I plan to put down by the dock this spring. Has two floodlights, should be really nice coming in from fishing after dark.

Edited by North of 8 3/12/2022 2:53 PM
kdawg
Posted 3/22/2022 8:40 AM (#1003748 - in reply to #1003431)
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ToddM - 3/11/2022 9:28 PM

Were there alot of boat gas thefts when gas was this high 3 presidents ago?
We were not coming out of a pandemic then with forced lockdowns,vaccinations, mask mandates. Two years of it. Now folks have to deal with the current conditions in the country. People that I talk to are angry, very angry. Crime also is much worse now with the defund the police bs. As far as replacing the cap, later on this spring, I'll talk with my local marina guys and see what they would recommend. Kdawg
ToddM
Posted 3/22/2022 9:29 AM (#1003753 - in reply to #1003748)
Subject: Re: Locking gas caps for boats





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Location: oswego, il
kdawg - 3/22/2022 8:40 AM

ToddM - 3/11/2022 9:28 PM

Were there alot of boat gas thefts when gas was this high 3 presidents ago?
We were not coming out of a pandemic then with forced lockdowns,vaccinations, mask mandates. Two years of it. Now folks have to deal with the current conditions in the country. People that I talk to are angry, very angry. Crime also is much worse now with the defund the police bs. As far as replacing the cap, later on this spring, I'll talk with my local marina guys and see what they would recommend. Kdawg


Like I said was it like this in 08 when gas was this high and then the housing crisis? The media is making the people angry.

Edited by ToddM 3/22/2022 9:30 AM
North of 8
Posted 3/22/2022 10:44 AM (#1003761 - in reply to #1003753)
Subject: Re: Locking gas caps for boats




ToddM - 3/22/2022 9:29 AM

kdawg - 3/22/2022 8:40 AM

ToddM - 3/11/2022 9:28 PM

Were there alot of boat gas thefts when gas was this high 3 presidents ago?
We were not coming out of a pandemic then with forced lockdowns,vaccinations, mask mandates. Two years of it. Now folks have to deal with the current conditions in the country. People that I talk to are angry, very angry. Crime also is much worse now with the defund the police bs. As far as replacing the cap, later on this spring, I'll talk with my local marina guys and see what they would recommend. Kdawg


Like I said was it like this in 08 when gas was this high and then the housing crisis? The media is making the people angry.


We were in the worst recession since the great depression in '08, unemployment was almost double what it is now and as Todd says, the housing market had crashed. Banks were folding like dominoes.
kdawg
Posted 3/22/2022 11:32 AM (#1003763 - in reply to #1003761)
Subject: Re: Locking gas caps for boats




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North of 8 - 3/22/2022 10:44 AM

ToddM - 3/22/2022 9:29 AM

kdawg - 3/22/2022 8:40 AM

ToddM - 3/11/2022 9:28 PM

Were there alot of boat gas thefts when gas was this high 3 presidents ago?
We were not coming out of a pandemic then with forced lockdowns,vaccinations, mask mandates. Two years of it. Now folks have to deal with the current conditions in the country. People that I talk to are angry, very angry. Crime also is much worse now with the defund the police bs. As far as replacing the cap, later on this spring, I'll talk with my local marina guys and see what they would recommend. Kdawg


Like I said was it like this in 08 when gas was this high and then the housing crisis? The media is making the people angry.


We were in the worst recession since the great depression in '08, unemployment was almost double what it is now and as Todd says, the housing market had crashed. Banks were folding like dominoes.
You can state all the examples you want and I'll counter with examples of my own. I'm not going to change your mind just as much as your not going to change mine. We'll know how the country feels in November so I'll give Steve a break and at least on my part, end this political beef. Now, if you could give me any advice on protecting my gas, I'll listen. Kdawg
North of 8
Posted 3/22/2022 12:14 PM (#1003765 - in reply to #1003763)
Subject: Re: Locking gas caps for boats




kdawg - 3/22/2022 11:32 AM

North of 8 - 3/22/2022 10:44 AM

ToddM - 3/22/2022 9:29 AM

kdawg - 3/22/2022 8:40 AM

ToddM - 3/11/2022 9:28 PM

Were there alot of boat gas thefts when gas was this high 3 presidents ago?
We were not coming out of a pandemic then with forced lockdowns,vaccinations, mask mandates. Two years of it. Now folks have to deal with the current conditions in the country. People that I talk to are angry, very angry. Crime also is much worse now with the defund the police bs. As far as replacing the cap, later on this spring, I'll talk with my local marina guys and see what they would recommend. Kdawg


Like I said was it like this in 08 when gas was this high and then the housing crisis? The media is making the people angry.


We were in the worst recession since the great depression in '08, unemployment was almost double what it is now and as Todd says, the housing market had crashed. Banks were folding like dominoes.
You can state all the examples you want and I'll counter with examples of my own. I'm not going to change your mind just as much as your not going to change mine. We'll know how the country feels in November so I'll give Steve a break and at least on my part, end this political beef. Now, if you could give me any advice on protecting my gas, I'll listen. Kdawg


I would try and see if you can insert at plastic hose/tube far enough down to actually be able to siphon gas. From what was posted, many have a device that is designed to block over filling but would also stop siphoning. That would be a first step. If you can successfully insert the tube, you might want to look for device that can be put into the filler neck. It has been a long time but back in the 1990s, my employer had several company cars that we all used and because they were in a parking ramp that provided cover for thieves, they got hit from time to time by gas thieves. The security officer couldn't find a locking cap for one of the cars, but found this wire device that you twisted as you inserted it into the filler tube. Think there was a small tool that came with it. It went far enough in to allow filling the tank, but you could not get a siphon hose down to the tank.
But, today even those things might not work. In Milwaukee thieves are simply punching large diameter hole into the tank itself and draining the tank, leaving a nasty repair job.
Brian Hoffies
Posted 4/5/2022 8:40 AM (#1004180 - in reply to #1003295)
Subject: Re: Locking gas caps for boats





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Leave 3 gallons in the tank, carry gas cans in the boat you can remove to add gas as needed when using the boat. If you can't afford to lose 3 gallons drain it completely and put the boat in storage until your crisis ends.
missourimuskyhunter
Posted 4/5/2022 12:50 PM (#1004184 - in reply to #1003295)
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Location: Lebanon,Mo
Better idea.....remove gas fill and hide for yourself. Add dummy gas fill going to a spare tank with 50/50 mix of gas and water
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