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achotrod

Posted 9/25/2014 11:20 PM (#731874)
Subject: What are these?

Posts: 1283

They really do have great action, and Ive had them forever. I dont use these cause they were my dads. Does anyone make something like this?

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Pointerpride102

Posted 9/25/2014 11:29 PM (#731876 - in reply to #731874)
Subject: Re: What are these?

Posts: 16632

Location: The desert

They're flatfish, I believe.

A google search showed that there appears to be modern versions made by Worden's and Yakima bait company.

bryantukkah

Posted 9/25/2014 11:29 PM (#731877 - in reply to #731874)
Subject: RE: What are these?

Posts: 295

Those look like old wardens flat fish. Kwikfish makes a big one today, K15 i believe and a jointed one thats even bigger, J20 if im not mistaken.

muskie! nut

Posted 9/26/2014 8:13 AM (#731905 - in reply to #731874)
Subject: Re: What are these?

Posts: 2894

Location: Yahara River Chain

If they are metal, they are Canadian wigglers.

Flambeauski

Posted 9/26/2014 8:22 AM (#731909 - in reply to #731874)
Subject: Re: What are these?

Posts: 4343

Location: Smith Creek

Not canadian wigglers. Those are more cupped and don't have the hook hangers. Flatfish is what they are. The U20 is a dead giveaway.

Cedar

Posted 9/26/2014 10:11 AM (#731933 - in reply to #731874)
Subject: RE: What are these?

Posts: 353

Location: Western U.P.

I agree with the others... Flatfish. I still have at least 2 or 3 of the ones you have pictured. Also have a Musky sized one (T50 5") that puts up more fight than a lot of Walleyes I've caught. Pretty popular and successful bait back in the day. They made quite a few different sizes, and could catch just about anything on them. Nice table.

Musky Face

Posted 9/26/2014 4:48 PM (#732000 - in reply to #731874)
Subject: Re: What are these?

Posts: 558

Naze bait makes a musky sized one. Great bait. It's called the livid fish, check them out.

wallygator

Posted 9/26/2014 6:26 PM (#732009 - in reply to #731874)
Subject: Re: What are these?

Posts: 319

Location: Tomahawk,Wis

Could also be a Lazy Ike..

pklingen

Posted 9/26/2014 6:58 PM (#732013 - in reply to #731874)
Subject: Re: What are these?

Posts: 866

Location: NE Ohio

i do believe those are older HELIN FLATFISH. lazy ike's have a metal nose cover by the line tie.

wallygator

Posted 9/26/2014 7:27 PM (#732018 - in reply to #731874)
Subject: Re: What are these?

Posts: 319

Location: Tomahawk,Wis

Not the older ones...

Tackle Industries

Posted 9/26/2014 7:32 PM (#732020 - in reply to #732000)
Subject: Re: What are these?

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Location: Land of the Musky

Musky Face - 9/26/2014 4:48 PM

Naze bait makes a musky sized one. Great bait. It's called the livid fish, check them out.

X2 if you are looking for musky sized of these!

http://www.nazebaits.com/livid-fish.html

Great action on these and they are pike/musky size.
James

sworrall

Posted 9/26/2014 8:43 PM (#732033 - in reply to #731874)
Subject: Re: What are these?

Posts: 32888

Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin

Naze Baits, good stuff.

achotrod

Posted 9/26/2014 10:19 PM (#732045 - in reply to #731874)
Subject: Re: What are these?

Posts: 1283

thanks guys!
They are cool,need to get some new ones. The big one is 5" and the small one is just over 3". Think these were muskie size back then?

woodieb8

Posted 9/27/2014 6:31 AM (#732068 - in reply to #731874)
Subject: Re: What are these?

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flatfish . made in Detroit mi. and lasalle Ontario.

achotrod

Posted 9/27/2014 7:47 PM (#732145 - in reply to #731874)
Subject: Re: What are these?

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Think I should refurbish these or just put them away?

Cedar

Posted 9/27/2014 9:48 PM (#732165 - in reply to #732145)
Subject: Re: What are these?

Posts: 353

Location: Western U.P.

If you are a lure collector, or they have sentimental value, keep them with the collection in their original condition. I use some of the old stuff from my dad from time to time, but only with a leader... just in case. In your first pic, the 2nd lure up from the bottom (crackle finish frog pattern), I've found to be irresistible to Northerns.

woodieb8

Posted 9/27/2014 10:39 PM (#732172 - in reply to #731874)
Subject: Re: What are these?

Posts: 1529

run them slow. I have a few older wooden ones in the box.they were built 5 miles from my home. the f-4 were great for walleyes tipped with worms.

RiverMan

Posted 9/28/2014 7:08 AM (#732182 - in reply to #731874)
Subject: Re: What are these?

Posts: 1504

Location: Oregon

There isn't a fisherman on the west coast that doesn't have some of these. Thousands and thousands are sold every year. This lure is absolutely killer on salmon. We wrap a small piece of herring, sardine, or tuna on the belly of the lure and then run it down near the bottom with either lead or divers. Mostly we use kwikfish which look identical to this lure, they have a slow wide wobble and will dive a fair bit too in the larger sizes.

Jed

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Ranger

Posted 10/3/2014 1:01 AM (#733094 - in reply to #731874)
Subject: Re: What are these?

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Here's real old flatfish. Back in the 20's my grandpa row trolled this bait with silk line in a steel boat for tanker pike

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Ranger

Posted 10/3/2014 1:04 AM (#733095 - in reply to #731874)
Subject: Re: What are these?

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patina

i wonder how they did the thru wire construction on these old wood baits, the center wire runs from the eye thru the curve and out the tail.

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Ranger

Posted 10/3/2014 3:25 AM (#733096 - in reply to #731874)
Subject: Re: What are these?

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see the hand tooling? I think I do.

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woodieb8

Posted 10/3/2014 6:22 AM (#733099 - in reply to #731874)
Subject: Re: What are these?

Posts: 1529

I have a few in the cardboard box still lol. when they sold therewere barrels of bodies in the trash here.. everyone. had one on there boat keys for floatation.

achotrod

Posted 10/5/2014 12:23 PM (#733357 - in reply to #731874)
Subject: Re: What are these?

Posts: 1283

I found some new flatfish at a local shop in the 6" size. Ill grab a couple next time Im over there. Still need to order some of the Naze baits.
As for these Ill just keep them as is.

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