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Location: oswego, il | I really like my new TX 44 boards from church tackle. They are however a load to haul in and a load on the reel. I blew out two anti reverses with these boards my last time out. I need a good line counter with a ton of cranking power and low gear ratio. My diawa sealines may be strong enough but they dont have the cranking power to get them in. I blew out two anti reverses in Okuma madga reels. I was thinking the Penn 209 LC reel as a possibility with its 3.2 gear ratio. I have had two fishing partners have to sit down and rest hauling a musky and salmon with these boards. Just looking for a better option that will hold up. Never had any reel issues with the standard walleye and offshore boards. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Have you tried upgrading to Okuma Convectors? |
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| I would change the boards than the reels. The reels will cost a fortune. You could use Tranx pg's and count the # of line passes. |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | Surprised you didn't blow the pinion gears as well. When a 44 goes under you have a serious pull. I have 44's and Walleye boards. The Walleye boards will pull Hose Fatty's which I have been having success with, 10 inch Believers, Jakes, Stalkers, and Grandmas. I'm using Convector 30's and Tekota 600's. |
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Location: Waukesha, WI, USA | Another vote for Tekota |
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Location: Forest Lake, MN & Bemidji, MN | I have a tx 44 board as well and use an okuma cold water line counter and have had no issues. I use it to troll 14" Jakes and 12" head locks high in the water column and have been happy overall. That said I have not had to reel in a big heavy along with the board yet. First year using them together and only used on one trip, I primarily cast. |
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| I use the Okuma Convectors 30d, not a problem. They reel in headlocks,BWB's and hose baits @ 4 plus mph with ease. |
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Location: oswego, il | I have the 30 magdas and power wise they are ok but had the anti reverse blow out reeling one in. Had a magda 20 blow out in the rod holder. Thought about the convectors as well. Tried a friends convector and tekota and liked them but they were with a walleye board. These boards do a great job getting away from the boat but both style clips suck and double wrapping is a must. In bigger waves they really add the pressure. Thanks for all the input. |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | The clips on the Walleye boards can be reassembled to be the same as on the 44's. we had line wear and one broken line ( no fish involved ) wrapping the clips and with the Lockjaw and OR18 clips. |
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Location: Sycamore, IL | I like my Diawa Saltist linecounters for their high speed line pick up and power...should handle those boards A.O.K.
Another option would be to run a board and mast system...no boards to real in/ big spread:)
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Location: oswego, il | I could actually run the TX 44 boards mast style. Seen the saltist reels too they look good. The floating grass on lsc has been a puzzle to me. If here is alot of it, I can't seem to keep baits clean for more than a couple minutes no matter what I put on the line to keep weeds off. That's the other thing a TX 44 board with 15lbs of grass on it is brutal. I dont know how the mast system can keep a line cleaner than an in line planer can.. |
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Location: WI | The Okuma cold waters are really nice. They look bullet proof. Hoping to buy 6 this winter for next season. |
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| You need reels with at least 20# of drag to pull in a trolling girl with 10oz of weight , I like the penn 330 gti the old ones that were made in the USA . From about the 3rd week in August to around the 1st of October Lsc can be tuff to troll due to weeds, are you using 20' leader with the weight clipped on at swivel or nott to keep it from sliding down the leader when weeds build up? I've found the further back the weight is clipped from the bait the less problems with weeds getting to the bait. I have a set of church boards I ran at Lsc once and in 2'to 3' waves they flip easy and yes they are next to impossible to reel in when that happens. I only use them now at low to keep the boat away from the rocky shoreline . I never had a double digit day on Lsc till I built and ran offshore boards and running my weighs further away from my baits. |
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Location: Money, PA | Okuma Convector 30 or Catalinas, Clarion, Coldwater....Best bang for your buck! |
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Posts: 19
| I would also recommend using reels loud clickers and wide level wind guides so leader knots and small dia spro type swivels can pass through them with ease while reeling up leader material. |
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| Oh, and aways run a little hammer Firetiger on a down rod about 6' to 8' back ,Paul I need a new one btw! |
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Location: 31 | Tekota’s for my board rods because they are like little winches, easier/faster to bring in the boards than the Sealines (never used a Okuma). Regarding the 44s, I initially thought it would be a solid improvement as an outside board, and outfitted a pair with the RO-18 and red clips to function the same as the inline Offshore boards. The 44s did the job but after running them for a while, I honestly did not see any measurable performance difference between the 44 and the offshore, and since they were bulkier and harder to bring in, they have pretty much been delegated to the B-team.
If anyone's interested they can be purchased reasonably  |
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Location: Walker, MN | I love my Tekotas for boards. Worth the $$ imo. |
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Location: Money, PA | Hahahaha! Cool Mark |
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Location: 31 | The Tekota is flat out smoother and more powerful than the Sealine… better be for that much $. I initially really liked the Tekota drag too, it had a neat “click setting” with a lot of range. However, after a couple seasons of hard fishing the drags were toasted, and that neat click setting completely shot. I ended up switching to carbontex washers, although the drag is a smoother now, there's still not as much range as I’d like… but they still do a good job provided I keep the drags well oiled.
I didn't think too much of the Sealine drag when compared to Tekota when they were both new, it's a complete reversal with the upgraded washers because the range on the Sealine with the carbontex is near perfect... I really wish the Tekota had the same wide range.
Something else of interest with the Sealines; a friend of mine seemingly found a great price them only to find that it was nearly impossible to bring in a plow when compared to mine. After we checked it out closer we found that he had a model with only two ball bearings, versus the more common three BB with the wide spool Sealines… that extra BB makes an almost unbelievable difference in performance. So if you're buying a Sealine, make sure that it has the 3BB (Tekota has 3+1 BB).
The clicker is another importance point; the Tekota is a little on the quiet side, and not good for down rods in rough weather... very hard to hear go off. However, they still work better for boards than the Sealine for my style of fishing as previously mentioned. The down rod has the louder/better Sealine drag because it faces away from the boat, the board rods have the Tekotas for bringing in the boards.
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| Trophyseeker50 - 9/30/2014 10:30 PM
The Okuma cold waters are really nice. They look bullet proof. Hoping to buy 6 this winter for next season.
can you compare them with the tekotas?
that's the first time i see them ,they look really nice |
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| Penn 209 LC's. That is what I use. I didn't want to make a huge investment in reels and these have served me well on Lake Michigan. That being said, I have only caught one 37" off a TX44. The low torque of the 209LC helped. Let's face it, these aren't reel burning salmon that we are talking about here.
Save your dough. Go with 209LC's and have some extra cash to buy more lures.
The TX44's are beasts, that's for sure but they really get the job done. A TX33 would be ideal....Church Tackle - hint, hint.
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Location: oswego, il | I ended up buying two coldwater reels for the muskie portion of the tx44. Found some great prices on amazon, cheaper than you can buy the convectors retail. Bought two convectors for the salmon side. Seems like good reels and since there are no weeds and not trolling above 3mph figured they would be good. Salmon guys like that reel. I at least wanted to look at the Penn but nobody carries it to look at around me and the reviews are love or hate but point taken probably fine for muskies. |
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Location: oswego, il | Since I had a gift card burning a hole in my pocket I went for 4 penn line counters. Never read where the anti reverse ever had an issue which was my issue. Will take the coldwaters and make them into salmon setups. |
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