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Message Subject: Fishing/Boating Ethics help!
curleytail
Posted 6/20/2014 8:43 AM (#716842 - in reply to #715605)
Subject: Re: Fishing/Boating Ethics help!




Posts: 2687


Location: Hayward, WI
I haven't read through all the replies, but here goes. I have a hard time picturing exactly what happened, but sometimes things don't go as planned. If there's a boat on structure that I want to fish, I always make sure to get in behind them rather that move in front. Usually I start well behind them, maybe 100 yards or so. Sometimes though, a guy will be drifting, or turn his boat, and change direction after I see him, and start heading my way. Can't help that from happening.

The other thing - normally if I can make a normal cast and cast over somebody's boat or their trolled lines, I figure they are too close. If you had to cut in close due to shallow water, the other boat would hopefully understand that and be okay with it. The way some spots are laid out (like fishing bouys marking a channel), if a person is fishing there and they are in the path of where boats have to go, they should be prepared to have others pass close by.

In my mind the rules are fairly simple:
1.) In general if I can easily cast to a boat, we are way to close.
2.) Don't get in front of somebody's direction of travel.

There are more than that, but following those two rules should keep you pretty "bird free" on the water.
Tackle Industries
Posted 6/20/2014 9:00 AM (#716845 - in reply to #715605)
Subject: Re: Fishing/Boating Ethics help!





Posts: 4053


Location: Land of the Musky
LOL I setup once on Waconia on a reef about 300 yards away from a guy and he was trolling away from me. He saw me, threw his stuff down, flicked me off and took off. Some guys are just a-holes. Just don't be one of them
djwilliams
Posted 6/20/2014 9:11 AM (#716847 - in reply to #715605)
Subject: Re: Fishing/Boating Ethics help!




Posts: 769


Location: Ames, Iowa
Most folks who do all these things we're harping on have no idea they are doing wrong by others. There is an endless supply of those people. It's the ones who know what they're doing and just do not care for any other person's space or well being that is the most offensive. Something needs to be said to both, even though it's likely already been said to the latter group, but just as likely has no effect. I avoid em if I can.
Nell
Posted 6/22/2014 10:40 PM (#717196 - in reply to #715605)
Subject: Re: Fishing/Boating Ethics help!




Posts: 122


Well the boat that got mad changes directions from where we thought they were headed so.... sort of a miscalculation on my part they cut through the bouyes we thought they would go around... but alas next time I will go some where else if able it is a busy lake.

The guys casting close... pulled in after us and headed opposite way towards us and we had to move closer too them due to depth of water....

Just trying to make sure I am polite... I don't always pull behind someone if a lot of structure but after post I will certainly do so know even if big hump to work
Steve Van Lieshout
Posted 6/23/2014 8:49 PM (#717406 - in reply to #715605)
Subject: Re: Fishing/Boating Ethics help!




Posts: 1916


Location: Greenfield, WI
I was fishing on Wabigoon outside of Dryden Ontario. It is a large lake and much of the time fishing pressure is nearly nonexistent when compared to Pewaukee. We had not seen another boat or even heard another boat in our first two or three hours. Out of nowhere a small Lund boat with a couple of guys pull around the island where we were fishing and pulled to about 30' ahead of our drift and started back trolling!? My partner screamed at them, "What the F are you doing???" Their response was, "Oh, its ok we are in a walleye tournament." What?
The next two casts from my partner bounced off their hull. They talked between themselves and decided that they should fish somewhere else.......
That set a new standard for idiots in a boat lacking any sort of boating ethics!
Pointerpride102
Posted 7/3/2014 2:03 PM (#719055 - in reply to #715605)
Subject: Re: Fishing/Boating Ethics help!





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
Must be in the water up there, SVL.

Pulled up to a small spot, maybe 100 yards max. Two camp boats come in behind us, as we are starting to work the weeds. They pull in front of us and set up to fish muskies. They even waved as they went by! We powered out of there. Ridiculous! 50,000 acres of water to fish and they set up a cast length from us?
VMS
Posted 7/3/2014 2:37 PM (#719059 - in reply to #715605)
Subject: Re: Fishing/Boating Ethics help!





Posts: 3480


Location: Elk River, Minnesota
Doesn't matter what sport, hobby, object, tool, etc... If muskie fishing could be made idiot proof, somebody is going to make a better idiot.

Steve
jonnysled
Posted 7/3/2014 2:39 PM (#719060 - in reply to #715605)
Subject: Re: Fishing/Boating Ethics help!





Posts: 13688


Location: minocqua, wi.
it was the fancy boat that attracted them pointer … try fishing out of a dirty boat that has no flakes and gelcoat.
Kirby Budrow
Posted 7/3/2014 4:08 PM (#719075 - in reply to #715605)
Subject: Re: Fishing/Boating Ethics help!





Posts: 2325


Location: Chisholm, MN
Maybe I'm a spot snob but I don't believe in fishing the same spot as another person at all, unless it's a huge community spot. I will never pull up to someone on a reef unless it's a gigantic spot like Garrison reef or something.
jonnysled
Posted 7/3/2014 4:26 PM (#719076 - in reply to #719075)
Subject: Re: Fishing/Boating Ethics help!





Posts: 13688


Location: minocqua, wi.
^ x2
Cody
Posted 7/3/2014 9:21 PM (#719132 - in reply to #715605)
Subject: Re: Fishing/Boating Ethics help!




Posts: 358


Long story short. Trolling with four lines out, max. 50ft. back, clearly could be seen that trolling was in progress. Pleasure boater thought it was funny to get that close to overrun our lines....wasn't funny to him when he came back for more and wound up the old braid I drifted back on a red and white bobber and later saw he was broke down. Years ago I would of got irrate and got in trouble. Now I still tell the story and laugh about it.
Pointerpride102
Posted 7/3/2014 10:34 PM (#719145 - in reply to #719060)
Subject: Re: Fishing/Boating Ethics help!





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
jonnysled - 7/3/2014 1:39 PM

it was the fancy boat that attracted them pointer … try fishing out of a dirty boat that has no flakes and gelcoat.


Following us around this week would be a poor decision, unless you like looking at fish giving you the middle finger.
Jeremy
Posted 7/3/2014 10:46 PM (#719147 - in reply to #715605)
Subject: Re: Fishing/Boating Ethics help!




Posts: 1144


Location: Minnesota.
Just look at the number of "views" against the number of replies to this topic and it might tell you just how important this is to most of us.

I hope a lot of "those guys" (yeah, you...! - me included here!!) take from this and there's just a little bit less rudeness because of it. I've learned a little although I really try to be a "sport" out there.

I'll remember Kirby B.'s post above. Might even get me onto a new spot that I'd not have tried before. But it'll be trying if all the spots are occupied and it's near dark. Good luck out there this season.
ESOX Maniac
Posted 7/4/2014 5:46 AM (#719156 - in reply to #719147)
Subject: Re: Fishing/Boating Ethics help!





Posts: 2753


Location: Mauston, Wisconsin
x 4 What Kirby said......... I seek out lonely spots. When or if someone moves in, I move out. Try to keep a respectable distance from others, but there are times when it doesn't really matter too.....like if I've just moved a big fish, then I don't move, its just fishing. I'm not letting someone in another boat ruin my day. But, I frequently wonder if they were born stupid or they grew up that way!

Have fun!
Al
Nell
Posted 7/4/2014 2:44 PM (#719191 - in reply to #715605)
Subject: Re: Fishing/Boating Ethics help!




Posts: 122


Out on the water trolling weather is pretty rough for casting. I TRY to have ethics and am trying to learn to have better ethics in the mean time I am getting times three pay back if I was a jerk when I moved into that spot lol

TICKED OFF! I just caught a #*^@ boat! Yes a freaking boat.... some pleasure guys playing on a raft with there kids at a super spend resort...... went right behind us over our lines and buzz went my line.......... pulling out fast.... luckily he was parking at the dock ad when I let my line go it came loose.... he was totally unaware and buzzed off running his small children over a sunken island four feet deep! *gritting teeth* I SUPPOSE I should have warned him but afraid to with the anger burning in me!
woodieb8
Posted 7/4/2014 6:50 PM (#719205 - in reply to #715605)
Subject: Re: Fishing/Boating Ethics help!




Posts: 1529


normally here theres tons of watwe.
fast forward to fall rivermouths its a zoo. trolling runs clogged with casters parked. this all comes with internet hero,s . then the problems start . dawg chuckers throwin trying to catch boats from shore. in that period I fish weekdays or areas with no one around.
its supposed to be fun... at least here in Ontario the jet skiers were corralled and 5mph speed limit zones stop the tuna boats from swamping guys.
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