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Location: Oconto Falls, WI | I am all for the DNR managing our resources, but color me confused today. Just saw this today and I find it interesting.
So the push to legalize trolling throughout WI was to "simplify" the rules. Yet in the hunting sector they just made the rules even more complex. Yikes!
http://dnr.wi.gov/files/PDF/pubs/wm/WM0283.pdf
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Location: Greenfield, WI | Your first mistake is trying to use logic! |
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| Your second mistake was to use logic to make sense of anything generated by a government agency. |
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Location: Smith Creek | Not confusing if you read between the lines. What it says to me is, "don't hunt deer in Wisconsin".
I think its going to be wildly successful.
Edited by Flambeauski 6/2/2014 3:59 PM
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Location: The desert | I'm confused, what's confusing? |
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Location: Almond, WI | I find it pretty easy to understand. You're seriously reaching. |
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| Give me the rules to the game and I will play.
The changes to fishing regs for 2015 make sense to me, and the changes to the hunting regs make sense to me also. Creating separate tags for public and private lands is a great idea. Nothing new in the world of big game hunting, just new to the state of WI.
Trolling will not be the end of the fisheries in WI and crossbows won't eliminate all of the deer. New rules pick an choose as you please... |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I shoot a crossbow now, the right shoulder won't let me hold my bow at full draw anymore. Crossbow hunting offers it's own set of challenges. Far as the regs go, the Northern herd got pretty beat up by the severe winter, we expected and were really really hoping for some 2014/2015/2016 regs addressing the reduction in herd size. |
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| sworrall - 6/2/2014 4:35 PM
I shoot a crossbow now, the right shoulder won't let me hold my bow at full draw anymore. Crossbow hunting offers it's own set of challenges. Far as the regs go, the Northern herd got pretty beat up by the severe winter, we expected and were really really hoping for some 2014/2015/2016 regs addressing the reduction in herd size.
Steve, might want to look into some of the new higher let off bows if you are interested. Have bad shoulder myself, currently shooting an Elite E35 set at 58lbs holding 10. I was shooting it at 53, holding 8.5lbs, more than enough power for hunting. BR |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Already did, doc tells me not to pull a bow anymore unless I want to hurry a shoulder replacement, derned thing is completely shot I guess. Not up for that, that's for sure.
Wish I could, I like shooting my bow as much at the targets as I do a whitetail. |
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Location: Oconto Falls, WI | ...
Edited by CiscoKid 6/3/2014 12:26 PM
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Location: Hayward, WI | Interesting changes. I'm not sure how I like things being broken up into more general zones, but they do still have a fair amount of seperation by county with number of anterless tags being different from county to county.
Only thing I'm not positive about - If I buy a northern forest zone license, am I still able to shoot a buck in a central cropland area? At times I hunt both Sawyer and Chippewa county, and it would be a bummer if I was tied to only one zone or the other.
The positive thing I will take from this is it looks like fewer antlerless deer will be taken. That's a good thing. The deer population has really plumeted the last several years, especially in the Sawyer county area. Last year was terrible. I imagine this year will be even worse with the rough winter the herd had to struggle through. I think we could stand several years of cutting all anterless tags in the northern part of the state, and reducing them in many other areas.
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Location: Hudson, WI | I know of a farmer who found 7 dead deer in a 20 acre piece of woods and the deer that he saw in March wouldn't even run until you stepped on them.
As far as I'm concerned, there shouldn't be a doe tag north of HWY 29. |
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Location: South Central Wisconsin | While I certainly agree to reducing the permits on public land, I'm not sure I like the way they set up the permits for private. I have 120 acres of pretty good hunting land in Green Lake county. We have been practicing QDM since 1991. Since then I have harvested 9 bucks that I consider trophies and taken kids including my own out to harvest some big ones as well. Where I hunt, many of the neighbors don't shoot doe. The hunting is so good that they hold out for a big buck. That said, in our little area, it is over run with deer. Many years I have killed around 10 doe myself to help reduce the population. (Many of those went to friends/donated. ) There have been years where altogether we have killed 20 or so deer off of our land. Now raising the permits from $2 to $12 adds another cost. Many may disagree with this statement but, I enjoyed the earn a buck years. The hunting for mature bucks was better and deer were getting killed...
Attached a pic of my kids buck when he was 11 years old.
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Location: Smith Creek | Was it the same farmer who had all the dead turkeys on his land a few years back? 
I just think it's a shame I can't get revenge on the stupid does that eat my apple trees. |
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Location: Hudson, WI | I have to say also, that the map is pretty accurate from what I've been hearing. There are deer coming out of the woodwork in my neck of the woods..and that is set up as a management zone. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | Randy,
That's a dandy buck! I don't disagree with what you say as it sounds like your experience backs it up with the deer population in your area. I'm not sure how the 2100 private land doe tags compare to what would be typical in that unit.
I'm glad that the more northern zones have 0 anterless tags. I still see a few deer up here, and there are certainly some brutes running around, but the hunting is terrible. The population has been reduced to the point where there's just little to be had. Few does, fawns, and not many bucks. Not many deer equals not many big buck sightings either. We don't see deer trails anymore. Evidence of deer is a few ruffled up leaves where a deer or two walked recently. It's pretty scarce.
For this part of the state, too many Earn a bucks, T-zones, and cheap doe tags have taken a real toll. As much as I LOVE to bowhunt, I would have voted to close hunting for the northern 1/2 of the state for 1 year, and then open it to bucks only. I could have gotten through it by musky fishing till ice up. Either way, for up here, I'm glad to see the change. Hopefully the changes made to the rest of the state are good choices as well. |
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| I'll have to stand in line for my third tag for where I gun hunt, but other than that, no change for me. Been averaging three carcasses a year for the past twenty years, hunt three different parcels, pass multiple opportunities every year. Yeah if I did all that on one parcel I'd have to slow down, but it will be harvesting as usual in 2014 for me. |
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| sworrall - 6/2/2014 4:48 PM Already did, doc tells me not to pull a bow anymore unless I want to hurry a shoulder replacement, derned thing is completely shot I guess. Not up for that, that's for sure. Wish I could, I like shooting my bow as much at the targets as I do a whitetail. Just the shoulder, right? That doesn't affect your flip-the-folding-chair-hookset demo does it?
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| Am glad to see that no anterless tags will be given in some northern counties.. With the population so low, at least where I hunt, I wish they would have a 3 year ban on deer hunting altogether.. Then we might actually have some deer to manage! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Shep,
Nope. that's all from the left!
Saw over 40 deer between Minocqua and Rhinelander last night on the way home from beating the hell out of the bluegills and bass. WAY more than I would have guessed, and many were yearlings. Some areas did OK. |
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| I'm not trying to be contentious and I certainly can vouch for two brutal winters, but the DNR is telling a half true. How about taking some responsibility for the many years of handing out doe tags like candy and the ability of buying more for 12 bucks. Politics ! You just got to love it ! |
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Location: Smith Creek | I think it's fairly obvious that the turkeys are to blame for the declining deer population. Their population has risen here in the North as the deer population has dropped. Coincidence?
I think we need Earn-a-Tom (EAT). |
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Location: MN | I don't deer hunt. I would like to but there are too many other things higher on the priority list in the fall. My buddies are absolutely nutty about it and they tell me they see more wolf tracks than deer tracks now.
If you guys think fishing or deer hunting regs are confusing check out the duck hunting regs. They have to release their own handbook just for waterfowl. |
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Location: The desert | Nershi - 6/6/2014 3:34 PM
I don't deer hunt. I would like to but there are too many other things higher on the priority list in the fall. My buddies are absolutely nutty about it and they tell me they see more wolf tracks than deer tracks now.
If you guys think fishing or deer hunting regs are confusing check out the duck hunting regs. They have to release their own handbook just for waterfowl.
Waterfowl can get confusing, especially if you're new to it or move to a different state. Once you get into the regs, they aren't terribly confusing. They usually vary from year to year as well, though that it is becoming common for big game now too.
Hey, the more confusing the better! Keeps the idiots away hahaha! |
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Location: one foot over the line | Confusing duck regs?? Check out the regs to hunt MN/WI border water sometime. I live on the mississippi, on the WI side, and after chasing ducks for 30 years i think that i am starting to understand the regs. I feel for the ones that come here to hunt ducks and have to figure it out for the first time. The imaginary center line down the middle of the main channel is the border, however, it is not the current main channel (which is marked), it is the old main channel which is not marked. You better know where you are. Fishing regs on this border water?? Don't even get me started. We had a bass pro here a couple of years ago that got DQ'd for fishin 20 yards into MN water. He owned up to it, admitted it was his mistake. But can happen very easily. I will have to agree with pointer that the more confusing the better. |
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