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lennyg3
Posted 3/17/2014 9:26 PM (#700167)
Subject: Importance of color for top water





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Location: NE PA
Like the title states. I'm sure that there are times when color plays a role, but are the variations just fisherman catchers? Is a light(white/silver), bright(chartreuse/firetiger), and dark (brown/black) enough to cover the spectrum or has anyone ever noticed a big difference between variations of similar colors on the same day?
wkeegobbler
Posted 3/17/2014 10:28 PM (#700180 - in reply to #700167)
Subject: RE: Importance of color for top water





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Location: Waukee, IA
Topwater color is important as long as it is black.
Propster
Posted 3/17/2014 10:35 PM (#700183 - in reply to #700167)
Subject: Re: Importance of color for top water




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Location: MN
And I would say topwater color is almost immaterial, though I happen to use more dark than bright ones, simply because I own more dark ones. I think that sound, speed, wake, action etc all play a bigger part than color.
Trophyseeker50
Posted 3/17/2014 11:48 PM (#700194 - in reply to #700167)
Subject: Re: Importance of color for top water





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Location: WI
I use black in sun/ bluebird, and white in the rain or dark clouds. Personally don't think it matters black vs brown or similar colors. More action and sound like said above.
Cal
Posted 3/18/2014 7:38 AM (#700207 - in reply to #700167)
Subject: Re: Importance of color for top water





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Location: ON
Black belly and a bright back or top color like Orange, chart, or pink.

When the fish look up the black silhouettes against the sky the best. When you look out at the lure the bright color is easiest to see.

My theory anyways.
newmuskyz
Posted 3/18/2014 7:57 AM (#700215 - in reply to #700207)
Subject: Re: Importance of color for top water




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I prefer darks, brights, naturals, and mediums. Go figure......
Big Rock
Posted 3/18/2014 7:57 AM (#700216 - in reply to #700167)
Subject: Re: Importance of color for top water




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Location: Wisconsin River
Yup, Black for the fish high vis. for you!!
sworrall
Posted 3/18/2014 8:26 AM (#700227 - in reply to #700216)
Subject: Re: Importance of color for top water





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Contrast is the key. The sky is the background against which the fish has to see the bottom...not sides or top...of the lure. Dark day, dark lure, bright day, bright colored lure.
Masqui-ninja
Posted 3/18/2014 9:03 AM (#700240 - in reply to #700227)
Subject: Re: Importance of color for top water





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Location: Walker, MN
Or, if everyone is throwing black try something else. I have yet to see a baitfish/fish with a black belly. Yes, most of mine are black too
h2os2t
Posted 3/18/2014 9:17 AM (#700243 - in reply to #700227)
Subject: Re: Importance of color for top water




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Location: Freedom, WI
I would think top and sides would make a difference with the baits that belly roll or tail rotating baits. I would agree contrast is key.
BNelson
Posted 3/18/2014 9:56 AM (#700256 - in reply to #700167)
Subject: Re: Importance of color for top water





Location: Contrarian Island
about 75% of mine are Loon colored... ; ) works for me, fish dig em
jakejusa
Posted 3/18/2014 12:09 PM (#700310 - in reply to #700167)
Subject: RE: Importance of color for top water




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Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan!
I have allot of black & gold, some ducks & loons, and this goofy tan colored one with a green head that I think was the makers copy of a mallard. Anyway it's gotten a ton of fish, as many as any of the dark ones. But against an overcast sky it would look mostly dark.
sworrall
Posted 3/18/2014 6:40 PM (#700409 - in reply to #700243)
Subject: Re: Importance of color for top water





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
h2os2t - 3/18/2014 9:17 AM

I would think top and sides would make a difference with the baits that belly roll or tail rotating baits. I would agree contrast is key.


They would have to roll ALLOT, and color is only seen when the disturbance caused by the bait allows and there is enough light in the water column between the fish and the bait. Bait fish color has zero to do with any lure's success.
FAT-SKI
Posted 3/18/2014 7:03 PM (#700416 - in reply to #700409)
Subject: Re: Importance of color for top water




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Location: Lake "y" cause lake"x" got over fished
I have heard a ton of different opinions and theorys from a ton of different anglers far better then I will ever be. Some say all black, some say all bright gaudy colors, some say contrast. But no matter what their personal preference is, they all seem to do pretty well on what their confident in throwing. Personally I don't think it matters. Don't get me wrong I have my personal favorite or 'go to' baits as well. However, IMHO they are my go to's because of the action or sound they produce, not their color. I used to think it mattered, in fact I used to think it mattered A LOT! But after a few years either doing very well, or not even getting a follow. I have come to the conclusion that if their hungry and you place the cast well, they will eat it. IDK... Just my .02 cents anyway.
travesty
Posted 3/18/2014 7:05 PM (#700417 - in reply to #700227)
Subject: Re: Importance of color for top water




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Location: Freedom, WI
sworrall - 3/18/2014 8:26 AM

Contrast is the key. The sky is the background against which the fish has to see the bottom...not sides or top...of the lure. Dark day, dark lure, bright day, bright colored lure.


What if you are fishing shallow water? Would the color of the sky still get affected by even a little bit of water?
sworrall
Posted 3/18/2014 7:45 PM (#700435 - in reply to #700167)
Subject: Re: Importance of color for top water





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Yes. And that also depends on how much light penetration is happening, turbidity of the water, how much wave action there is, and more.
travesty
Posted 3/18/2014 7:51 PM (#700438 - in reply to #700167)
Subject: Re: Importance of color for top water




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Location: Freedom, WI
But could it be affected little enough as to have light lures contrast good with a dark sky and dark lure contrast good with a light sky? Like say in 2 feet of clear water.

By the way, great seminar at the Musky Magic show this past weekend. I learned a lot and hope to put that information into catching my first ski.
sworrall
Posted 3/18/2014 7:58 PM (#700444 - in reply to #700167)
Subject: Re: Importance of color for top water





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Ha. Good cast, caught me.
Tackle Industries
Posted 3/18/2014 9:01 PM (#700461 - in reply to #700167)
Subject: Re: Importance of color for top water





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Location: Land of the Musky
IMO more important is the blades and wings on a topwater. Get a topwater with a lot of BLING for daytime use and nighttime with the moon out. That is why I use 24k gold plated wings on my topwater lures. Anything silver or gold will do you well. Brighter the better and at night with no moon, black on black its all sound and vibration...

JMO
James
h2os2t
Posted 3/18/2014 9:57 PM (#700486 - in reply to #700409)
Subject: Re: Importance of color for top water




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Location: Freedom, WI
sworrall - 3/18/2014 6:40 PM

h2os2t - 3/18/2014 9:17 AM

I would think top and sides would make a difference with the baits that belly roll or tail rotating baits. I would agree contrast is key.


They would have to roll ALLOT, and color is only seen when the disturbance caused by the bait allows and there is enough light in the water column between the fish and the bait. Bait fish color has zero to do with any lure's success.


Agreed if the fish was under the bait, but off to one side I would think there would be enough light. After you throw that new toy you got Sunday and let me know what you think about the belly roll.
JKahler
Posted 3/19/2014 12:37 AM (#700516 - in reply to #700167)
Subject: Re: Importance of color for top water




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Location: WI
One bright, one dark. That's how I roll. But sometimes you see a sweet paint job you just have to have.
ILmuskie
Posted 3/19/2014 7:00 AM (#700524 - in reply to #700167)
Subject: Re: Importance of color for top water





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Location: Dixon, IL
I painted black on bottom so fish can see it below the water!
WildNWonderful
Posted 3/22/2014 6:18 PM (#701305 - in reply to #700524)
Subject: Re: Importance of color for top water




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I've always figured that if a fish is tits up in the water, the birds can target the white underside and the fish can catch the shadow cast by the darker top facing down. Probably the natural pattern to go with!
Rudedog
Posted 3/22/2014 10:03 PM (#701358 - in reply to #700516)
Subject: Re: Importance of color for top water




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Location: S.W. WI
JKahler - 3/19/2014 12:37 AM

One bright, one dark. That's how I roll. But sometimes you see a sweet paint job you just have to have.


X2
Same as JK.
I would just like to have so much topwater action that I could actually notice a preference.
walkingstick
Posted 3/23/2014 8:26 AM (#701404 - in reply to #700167)
Subject: Re: Importance of color for top water




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Location: North Central PA
there is a reason natural selection has produced counter shading on fish. Dark top and Light bottom. It is to hide from predation. I do not want white but a dark shade and I favor black. It is the silhouette the fish see. Black Jitterbugs and black spinnerbaits are my favorite night time bass lures. I can see the theory of white against the dark clouds but I am still a believer in black.
southern comfort
Posted 3/23/2014 8:32 AM (#701406 - in reply to #700167)
Subject: Re: Importance of color for top water




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I have found the following - dark days black/orange contrast. Bright days bright colors - contrast less important. I have also found white to be effective on dark days with WTD tops.
jano
Posted 3/23/2014 10:22 AM (#701429 - in reply to #700167)
Subject: Re: Importance of color for top water




walkingstick yes the best way to hide from birds is to mimic the bottom,so a black back is hard to located from the top. white is the best to way to stay unnoticed from the predator bellow the prey.so if you want to make sure your lure will get some attention there is a lot of better colors to choose other than a white belly
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