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Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan! | Has anyone seen any numbers as to what Bertha can exert on our equipment during her surges? not interested in a 35" fish I mean the chug-chug of a locomotive going the other direction. How much pressure is that? Then for the geeks out there given rod bend what fraction is relayed right to leader, line, reel? Somebody has this on a floppy disk I bet!! |
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Location: South Central Wisconsin | It's been a loooonnng winter eh? Lol |
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Location: NE PA | Randy - 3/7/2014 5:38 PM
It's been a loooonnng winter eh? Lol
LOL |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Too many variables. |
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Location: tHe LaKe Of PrIoR, mN | I may have carried a 1 wrong somewhere in my calculation but I got 47000 lbs seems legit to me :-D |
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| I've hooked up with a few big girls over the years, although not as many as I would like. The pressures exerted on equipment can be extreme, not to mention our bodies. I've had the wind knocked out of me, pulled a hamstring on a complicated figure 8, and may have even suffered a mild heart attack. Ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for this activity before tangling with a big one, especially in the late fall when they've got the feedbag on. Avoid rod bend at all costs. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | It might not be as much as you think. The momentum from a hit going straight away could probably be pretty high, but pure pulling power likely not as much. I once held a scale while a guy with a MH or H 7' rod loaded up the rod as much as he could (250 lb strong guy). Only got about 10 pounds.
Try picking up a full milk jug with a 9' rod once - I bet it's surprising! We're at the wrong end of a pretty long lever when fighting fish.
Either way, they are still pretty darn strong, and can sure hit hard at times! I caught a pretty thick low 40's once that made me sore for a couple days. It hit so hard I thought it was a 40 pounder. Must have pulled something between my chest and armpit that was a little stiff for a while. I imagine it hit the bait at full speed heading straight away. |
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Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan! | Most of us use braid, and most of us use hvy braid. There is little give and the more I age the more a fish can really do some damage. Tennis elbow is just part of the joys of life. I do not want to surrender and go to trolling ya know. Last summer after a few fish on a weekend I returned home climbed on the bike and the vibration got to my left arm so bad I rode most of the way one handed. |
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| More than you think. The first few bigger fish I hooked into really surprised me. Judging by the condition of some of the hooks that got bent on my lures from fish and how difficult it can be to straighten them with pliers? Reels have a drag for a reason... |
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| Last August on LOTW way up the Sunset Channel fishing a spot off of Big Island and I had a 56+ inch fish (my PB is 54X27 and this was much bigger) hit boat side on a figure 8 on a Jr DCG. The hook below was result of that. So enough tork to straigthen out a 7/0 hook...
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Location: Wakefield, MI | In the fall when the water gets colder and thicker they have more traction and pull harder.
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Mojo1269 - 3/10/2014 3:59 PM
Last August on LOTW way up the Sunset Channel fishing a spot off of Big Island and I had a 56+ inch fish (my PB is 54X27 and this was much bigger) hit boat side on a figure 8 on a Jr DCG. The hook below was result of that. So enough tork to straigthen out a 7/0 hook...
So I guess U had your drag locked down ????? or way to tight. |
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Location: Aurora | PIKEMASTER - 3/11/2014 5:05 PM
Mojo1269 - 3/10/2014 3:59 PM
Last August on LOTW way up the Sunset Channel fishing a spot off of Big Island and I had a 56+ inch fish (my PB is 54X27 and this was much bigger) hit boat side on a figure 8 on a Jr DCG. The hook below was result of that. So enough tork to straigthen out a 7/0 hook...
So I guess U had your drag locked down ????? or way to tight.
.. or didn't go free spool, or the hook was a soft one, or everything was a blur and it all jest happened too darn fast. Hate to do it but I gotta agree, too many variables. |
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Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan! | I really didn't expect to see hard numbers on this. But the fact is there is allot pressure. Last year I had one that did the surge and then went into this dive grind thing that one of us had to give on. I was giving drag but the pressure was hard enough that I went to free spool and thumb. That fish kicked me bad. Made me wonder if years from now fisherman arm injuries will be a commonly known thing.
And yes, when I got off the water all sore and out of shape from the fight I SMILED BIG! |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | The amount of force even the biggest fish muskie is able to generate is much less than most people would think. Without researching any data to back this up my guess is no more than 20# and that might be on the high side. At your own risk... Test it for yourself, tie 15# of weight on your favorite muskie rod and try to lift it off the ground. Please don't break your rod and try to blame me though. |
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Location: Wakefield, MI | Will Schultz - 3/12/2014 1:32 PM
The amount of force even the biggest fish muskie is able to generate is much less than most people would think. Without researching any data to back this up my guess is no more than 20# and that might be on the high side. At your own risk... Test it for yourself, tie 15# of weight on your favorite muskie rod and try to lift it off the ground. Please don't break your rod and try to blame me though.
I wanted to test out my new rod holders and see how much they flexed, put the drag pretty tight and it was quite easy to pull line at the end of the rod.
A Calcutta D only has a max drag pressure of 15 lbs, a Revo Toro has 22 lbs. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | milje - 3/12/2014 4:03 PM
Will Schultz - 3/12/2014 1:32 PM
The amount of force even the biggest fish muskie is able to generate is much less than most people would think. Without researching any data to back this up my guess is no more than 20# and that might be on the high side. At your own risk... Test it for yourself, tie 15# of weight on your favorite muskie rod and try to lift it off the ground. Please don't break your rod and try to blame me though.
I wanted to test out my new rod holders and see how much they flexed, put the drag pretty tight and it was quite easy to pull line at the end of the rod.
A Calcutta D only has a max drag pressure of 15 lbs, a Revo Toro has 22 lbs.
Now have somebody hold onto the rod, and see how hard it is for them to hold onto the rod while you pull hard enough to make the drag slip. I bet one of you is working a lot harder than the other.
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Location: Wakefield, MI | curleytail - 3/12/2014 5:24 PM
milje - 3/12/2014 4:03 PM
Will Schultz - 3/12/2014 1:32 PM
The amount of force even the biggest fish muskie is able to generate is much less than most people would think. Without researching any data to back this up my guess is no more than 20# and that might be on the high side. At your own risk... Test it for yourself, tie 15# of weight on your favorite muskie rod and try to lift it off the ground. Please don't break your rod and try to blame me though.
I wanted to test out my new rod holders and see how much they flexed, put the drag pretty tight and it was quite easy to pull line at the end of the rod.
A Calcutta D only has a max drag pressure of 15 lbs, a Revo Toro has 22 lbs.
Now have somebody hold onto the rod, and see how hard it is for them to hold onto the rod while you pull hard enough to make the drag slip. I bet one of you is working a lot harder than the other.
Tucker
My dad said to tie a lure on and grab it and he'll set the hook. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | milje - 3/12/2014 5:47 PM
curleytail - 3/12/2014 5:24 PM
milje - 3/12/2014 4:03 PM
Will Schultz - 3/12/2014 1:32 PM
The amount of force even the biggest fish muskie is able to generate is much less than most people would think. Without researching any data to back this up my guess is no more than 20# and that might be on the high side. At your own risk... Test it for yourself, tie 15# of weight on your favorite muskie rod and try to lift it off the ground. Please don't break your rod and try to blame me though.
I wanted to test out my new rod holders and see how much they flexed, put the drag pretty tight and it was quite easy to pull line at the end of the rod.
A Calcutta D only has a max drag pressure of 15 lbs, a Revo Toro has 22 lbs.
Now have somebody hold onto the rod, and see how hard it is for them to hold onto the rod while you pull hard enough to make the drag slip. I bet one of you is working a lot harder than the other.
Tucker
My dad said to tie a lure on and grab it and he'll set the hook.
Though I don't have the guts to do it with a bait that has hooks (at least not for the 1st try), I bet you'd be able to hold onto the bait. UNLESS, your dad mostly uses the butt end of the rod to set the hook. Then you might be in trouble.
If he loads the rod, I bet you could easily keep your grip. |
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