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| Is there any new info on this 2014 trolling law in northern wisconsin ? ---- thanks ---- jim |
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| Here we go again jim jim jim jim jim.!! The federal govt is shut down so the house and senate will not be discussing trolling in Northern WI. |
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| I think it was going to get tabled until next year. So won't be anything new, just same old debates. Most people in northern part of state are pretty vocal against it so I doubt it will happen (at least in the form that they originally proposed). |
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| Why is one way of fishing better or worse than another. If you have any proof that trolling is killing fish I'd love to see it. I really only use this method to locate fish/mapping areas then casting seems far more effective to me whether its 60 ft deep or 10. Plenty of lures will reach these depths on the cast with a little weight and countdowns. |
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| By the way, if you are reeling in a cast with the trolling motor engaged you are technically trolling. I think if the state bans this method the best way to do it would be to ban trolling and outboard motors completely since you can do it while rowing anyway. Not to mention it would exclude many fisherpeople that CAN'T cast from experiencing the thrill of catching any type of fish including walleye. Obviously not good and typical bad DNR policy! Keep trolling and simplify the rules. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | Plumpers1 - 10/9/2013 10:16 AM
By the way, if you are reeling in a cast with the trolling motor engaged you are technically trolling. I think if the state bans this method the best way to do it would be to ban trolling and outboard motors completely since you can do it while rowing anyway. Not to mention it would exclude many fisherpeople that CAN'T cast from experiencing the thrill of catching any type of fish including walleye. Obviously not good and typical bad DNR policy! Keep trolling and simplify the rules.
huh? |
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Location: Elk Grove Village, IL & Phillips, WI | Actually it is legal to have the motor on and cast. Everyone does it! |
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| Almost everyone drags suckers in the fall while casting here. So that is legal too! Probably depends on the warden you may encounter and the county you're fishing in. Just pointing out that there is grey area here and from the authorities i know it seems to be open to interpretation of that individual that is enforcing. |
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| Just do what Louis Spray did to catch his 69lber and you will be fine. |
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | Plumpers1 - 10/9/2013 12:41 PM
Almost everyone drags suckers in the fall while casting here. So that is legal too! Probably depends on the warden you may encounter and the county you're fishing in. Just pointing out that there is grey area here and from the authorities i know it seems to be open to interpretation of that individual that is enforcing.
Plumpers seems to be ahead of the trolling game. |
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Location: Elk Grove Village, IL & Phillips, WI | Sorry Plumper, it is in the regulations. Casting and immediate retrieval of a bait or lure while being propelled (forwards or backwards) by a motor or a sail or while being towed by a boat being propelled by a motor or sail is not motor trolling. Perfectly legal! Dragging a sucker is not!
Edited by KenK 10/9/2013 1:55 PM
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| Dragging a sucker sure is legal where I'm from. Actually dragging multiple suckers while casting is quite effective. When the ice attacks my gear that is what I'm limited to and I have run up to 6 meat rigs with 2 fishermen in my boat in those conditions. Not while casting of course. 3 lines in WI and I'll utilize them all. In my experience at the end of the day proper live rigging is far less harmful to the fish than a swallowed bulldawg wih 2 7/0 hooks on it. Never have foul hooked a fish on meat. Most of the time they are barely hooked if you know what you're doing. Have had several surgical removals with lures of various types this year alone. Doubt anyone can disagree with that. |
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Location: Elk Grove Village, IL & Phillips, WI | I guess I should have said in certain counties dragging a sucker is not legal. My county allows motor trolling as of a couple years ago too. And yes, I do drag when I need to if the wind is not in my favor. |
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| Plumpers1 - 10/9/2013 10:16 AM
By the way, if you are reeling in a cast with the trolling motor engaged you are technically trolling. I think if the state bans this method the best way to do it would be to ban trolling and outboard motors completely since you can do it while rowing anyway. Not to mention it would exclude many fisherpeople that CAN'T cast from experiencing the thrill of catching any type of fish including walleye. Obviously not good and typical bad DNR policy! Keep trolling and simplify the rules.
What if you are motoring towards your bait |
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| Good point. Drop a sucker in your spot, freespool, drift away, and motor back to it every so often. Never thought of it that way. Is that considered position fishing? |
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| Plumpers1 - 10/9/2013 3:36 PM
Good point. Drop a sucker in your spot, freespool, drift away, and motor back to it every so often. Never thought of it that way. Is that considered position fishing?
Why wouldn't you just stay in that spot? |
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Location: NE Wisconsin | Plumpers1 - 10/9/2013 2:05 PM
Dragging a sucker sure is legal where I'm from. Actually dragging multiple suckers while casting is quite effective. When the ice attacks my gear that is what I'm limited to and I have run up to 6 meat rigs with 2 fishermen in my boat in those conditions. Not while casting of course. 3 lines in WI and I'll utilize them all. In my experience at the end of the day proper live rigging is far less harmful to the fish than a swallowed bulldawg wih 2 7/0 hooks on it. Never have foul hooked a fish on meat. Most of the time they are barely hooked if you know what you're doing. Have had several surgical removals with lures of various types this year alone. Doubt anyone can disagree with that.
The most important phase of the above paragraph is "if you know what you are doing". I am willing to suggest 50% of fall sucker fishermen in the state of Wisconsin DO NOT know what the words "quick set" mean!!!! And let the fish go too long with thw sucker. No problem with a 13 " sucker and a 39" typical WI Muskie, but when the 13" sucker is grabbed by a 48" Muskie.......you had better set the hook a little sooner, or problems will happen!!!!! |
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | esoxaddict - 10/9/2013 4:13 PM
Plumpers1 - 10/9/2013 3:36 PM
Good point. Drop a sucker in your spot, freespool, drift away, and motor back to it every so often. Never thought of it that way. Is that considered position fishing?
Why wouldn't you just stay in that spot?
While I don't go to the lengths Plumpers describes, I'll put the suckers in free spool to adjust the position of my boat when I drift. Especially when I'm drifting points or cups where the wind would drift me into shore.
I have to say I'm a little perplexed as to what point(s) he's trying to make here, other than trolling us up. |
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| I remember that fall fishing weather patterns threw some curveballs and it was impossible to stay positioned for longer than a few seconds even with an anchor. yeah an anchor |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Must have been windy, eh? |
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