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Location: Kansas City BBQ Capitol of the world | Howdy,
I've been thinking about this for a few days now and the first time it happened back in 2009 I was successful, this time, not so much.
I was working a Weagle 25 feet in front of the bow and a Muskie going at what looked like 30MPH came up out of the water in a perfect arc 3 feet above the water to nail the Weagle and missed it. I reeled back in and kept casting in the area of the ambush but never seen her again.
The question is with a fish coming in with that speed and velocity how fast can she put on the breaks? I'm think now I should have been casting 90 degrees or more off my starboard side as that would have been her trajectory after she hit water.
Thanks in advance,
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| FAST, don't over think it sometimes they just miss, especially surface lures. A direct miss sounds more like what you had happen then one deciding it wasn't going to eat and trying to put on the breaks. If you would have casted at a different angle the fish probably would have missed from a different angle. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | instead of reeling back in ... work it like nothing happened, sometimes they'll set em up and hit em but if the bait's not there you took away a perfectly good meal from a hungry fish. |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | jonnysled - 10/17/2013 7:22 AM
instead of reeling back in ... work it like nothing happened, sometimes they'll set em up and hit em but if the bait's not there you took away a perfectly good meal from a hungry fish.
Never tried it but I like that Idea and will file it away and hope I can stay focused enough to apply |
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Location: Ontario | A couple of years ago I had a fish miss a weagle and turn around so fast to eat it again it was Mind boggling. To this day I still can't believe how fast it turned back on it |
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Location: northern indiana | Matty - 10/17/2013 9:31 AM
A couple of years ago I had a fish miss a weagle and turn around so fast to eat it again it was Mind boggling. To this day I still can't believe how fast it turned back on it
Might it have been a second fish in the area? I've had several times where multiple fish are following my bait to the boat. |
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| Matty I saw a pike do the same thing last weekend here in Europe, it came in at 100mph after my bulldawg missed it and then made a complete U-turn in ½ second and nailed the bait.
Edited by Zinox 10/17/2013 11:58 AM
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| I've seen a couple come flying in from a ways away and come to a dead stop halfway to the boat. I'm not sure how they do it, but they can stop about as fast as they can go.
As for what happened in your situation? Crazy fish. Most of the times when it's happened to me I consider it to be bad timing on my part - they were going to eat the lure, and I moved it out of the way just in time to leave them biting at the place where the lure was a second ago. I even had one miss a lure that sat there afterwards chomping like it was expecting something to be in it's mouth. I know they don't actually think, but sometimes I wonder if they're sitting there going "hey, what the --- I HAD it! Where'd it go?!" |
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Location: Kansas City BBQ Capitol of the world | Good stuff, so they do put on the breaks fast, that's a pretty amazing fish! There are a few different things I guess that could have been done, slowing cadence way down to make it look injured, reel in normal, throw a different bait, throw to a different spot, speed up. In the moment however you almost always get one shot and you just hope the one you did was the right one. I agree, Crazy indeed. I'd like to see the quick stop strike spin move, that would be awesome to see.
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| for me, whether it's a Weagle, Phantom, Hellhound, Twisted Sucker or what-have-you, it's a Zig-Zag bait mixed with pause. It's an incredible bait to use when you think they are not biting like crazy and you really want a bite. Put simply, you will get a lot of bites and lose a lot of fish. Everytime you inflict motion changing action might be at the precise time of a strike, the fish will miss. Some of these baits will "glide" 3-4 feet per touch too creating a tough target. Because you often have a weak connection, you are also going to fight against the laws of physics that turn these usually quite heavy baits into a crowbar. So, it's not a bucktail, you are not going to bring as many to the net....but you will at least have a chance on a lot of days when a bucktail won't find interest if you cast it a million times. |
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| Ill share my story, this summer I was fishing with a bullfrog topraider off a bridge next to a Pier. As I was about 2 feet from where the water ended BAM! It was amazing, for a second the water exploded and I saw the head of the muskie. Sadly, I was not able to hook the fish and it got away but it was a amazing experience. They can stop extremely quick and it only takes a second to loose one.
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