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Location: Black Creek, WI | There are pros and cons to both. Some valid points have been made for the advantage of the front deck and first bait through (especially for aggressive fish). However, I absolutely LOVE fishing from the back deck. What a joy to shed the responsibility (and distraction) of perfect boat control. There is nothing better than just getting in the zone between you and your lure/environment while your partner does all the "work" of boat control. Even if the boat control by your partner is sloppy.... as stated above... just take advantage of the new/different vantage points it creates. Be patient and wait for the best angle to develop. Threre is no right answer here. Just work together with your partner and take advantage of the benefits each casting platform provides. Jeolousy and envy will get you nowhere fast and hinder your "team's" performance. |
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| jlong - 9/12/2013 9:50 AM
There are pros and cons to both. Some valid points have been made for the advantage of the front deck and first bait through (especially for aggressive fish). However, I absolutely LOVE fishing from the back deck. What a joy to shed the responsibility (and distraction) of perfect boat control. There is nothing better than just getting in the zone between you and your lure/environment while your partner does all the "work" of boat control. Even if the boat control by your partner is sloppy.... as stated above... just take advantage of the new/different vantage points it creates. Be patient and wait for the best angle to develop. Threre is no right answer here. Just work together with your partner and take advantage of the benefits each casting platform provides. Jeolousy and envy will get you nowhere fast and hinder your "team's" performance.
Agree, really enjoy not having to run the trolling motor and being able to concentrate on the fish:) |
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| Flambeauski - 9/12/2013 9:25 AM
"As for fishing in the front of the boat? Never seen a guide do that, either. Bad move dude. That's what you call subsidizing someone elses fishing. Guides fishing? When it's just me, I welcome it. Two baits in the water = figuring out a pattern twice as fast. 3 in the boat? Well... Go ahead and fish if you want to. We're not leaving you anything to cast at, though, so don't expect much action."
EA
And the point of digging this up and reposting it on my behalf is... ???
Like I said - doesn't matter where you are in the boat as long as whoever is up front leaves you something to cast at. When it's a guide? Hit anything we leave, by all means. But we're paying you $400/day + tip and probably lunch. Take the front of the boat, and there goes your lunch AND your tip. |
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Location: Smith Creek | My point is that even someone who has seen large fish caught by the 2nd or third cast through would prefer to have the first cast on a spot.
Most guides fish out the back (if at all) for this reason. If fishing was as good or better for the 2nd through no one would ever get cut off by another boat. We'd be following boats instead of picking another spot on the lake to fish. |
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| Flambeauski - 9/12/2013 11:06 AM
My point is that even someone who has seen large fish caught by the 2nd or third cast through would prefer to have the first cast on a spot.
Most guides fish out the back (if at all) for this reason. If fishing was as good or better for the 2nd through no one would ever get cut off by another boat. We'd be following boats instead of picking another spot on the lake to fish.
Is it more common for a guides boat to be cut off or followed? |
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| Flambeauski - 9/12/2013 11:06 AM
My point is that even someone who has seen large fish caught by the 2nd or third cast through would prefer to have the first cast on a spot.
Most guides fish out the back (if at all) for this reason. If fishing was as good or better for the 2nd through no one would ever get cut off by another boat. We'd be following boats instead of picking another spot on the lake to fish.
I don't know about that. A big part of a guide's job is to help their clients become better anglers. The only way to do that is by watching what their clients are doing and how - how they cast, where they cast, how they work their lures, how they execute figure 8's, etc. You can't do that when your clients are behind you.
As for the nonsense about cutting off other boats? Heh. I'd bet there are more fish caught fishing behind another boat than there are trying to jump in front of one.
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| Whoever is not working the trolling motor in high winds has the advantage. In calm conditions, front of the boat absolutely has the advantage! This past year to Eagle Lake, we had high winds and the back of the boat won 7 to 6 for the week.
Also, the back of the boat has the best advantage of a 'cast back' for a seen or unseen fish. This technique works well with lazier fish, fish that miss on the eight and for follows never seen due to water clarity. Throwing back over the boats path has yielded a handful of fish each or our week long trips for the past five years since we perfected the art of the 'cast back'. |
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | First boat through is more important than first bait, imo.
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Location: oswego, il | I do prefer running the boat. I am a stickler and constantly adjusting. There is also a huge difference in how you position the boat between 1,2 and 3 people in it. Some people let the boat get completely out of position before making correction or run the boat way too fast for the baits being used. Others have cable drive tolling motors which drive me absolutely batty. |
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | I try not to use the TM, ever. I love wind drifting. Something about the challenge of finding the right angles for fishing structure, points and beds. With both yours and your partner's backs to the winds fanning out casts is fairly easy. |
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| Back outfishes me 10 to 1 |
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| I think the first bait through wins hands down when the fish are aggressive. They will certainly have the most opportunities even if fish aren't landed. What I have noticed through the years is that in the mid to late fall it really to pick up in the back of the boat the colder the water gets especially the AM bite, and when I fish 3 guys. This occurs even when working slowly through a prime area. 3rd guy through has do e really well. |
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