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Location: minocqua, wi. | a musky will eat a chicken when it's hungry. find the hungry musky.
when you are not catching fish, someone else is, guaranteed ... and it's usually where or where/when vs. what |
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Location: Contrarian Island | or just throw a double 10 99% of the time like I see most guys doing and you will never have to worry about what bait to put on. lol.
the more experience you get the more you'll know when.. for a rookie I think put on baits that are fun to work, you like, and that you think can catch fish for the structure you are working...
Edited by BNelson 9/10/2013 12:12 PM
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| Just don't become angry and bitter, you have the right idea enjoy it! |
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| I love pounding water to a froth. Especially when there are fish in the lake.
Edited by bshep 9/10/2013 1:13 PM
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Location: Black Creek, WI | jonnysled - 9/10/2013 12:06 PM a musky will eat a chicken when it's hungry. find the hungry musky. when you are not catching fish, someone else is, guaranteed ... and it's usually where or where/when vs. what John, why do you always beat around the bush? I think what John is saying is that changing lures may not always your best bet to get a bite. If you are not getting action.... try a different time to fish that spot... or look for a new spot/location. Since you usually want to continue fishing right NOW... that means make a location change as your first change-up. However, I know 123 has his game dialed in... and he offers up some very good options that don't require a location change. In Fisherman's (F)ish + (L)ocation + (P)resentation = success forumula is pretty rock solid. Learn the biology of the fish... which will give you knowledge of where to look for them... and then adjust your presentation as needed to match that location/situation. If you are confident in F and L... then start switching baits until you obtain some success... which will bring back your confidence. Good luck |
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| You need to fish everywhere. Fish the entire body of water. Fish have the ability to swim wherever they want. They are not always near some sort of element of form of life. |
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Location: Forest Lake, Mn. | I'm going to go back to the old basics of Buck Perry when it comes to lure selection and in this it might give you some guidelines for when to change or what to throw.
Buck used to say that there are 2 controls and 3 aids in lure selection for a fishing situation. The 2 controls being more important than the 3 aids. The 2 controls are; depth and speed. The 3 aids are; size, action, color. We must always control the depth and the speed our lures are running at in order to trigger fish. If you're using a crankbait that runs 20 feet deep in 2 feet of water you're not going to catch fish. If you use a surface lure and the fish are belly to the bottom in 30 feet depths you're not going to catch fish. Ok, so that is rather obvious and over simplified but think about the deeper truth there. The first thing you want to consider in your lure selection is the depth of water you're fishing. Pick a bait that works well at those depths, be they shallow, medium, or deep, in the area you are fishing.
Speed, some lures run fast and some slow. You can choose what lures to throw based upon their speed design. Some bucktails are burners and others run slower. Same for any lure category. So once you have a lure picked out that will run at the depth (control) of the area being fished your next job is to pick lures that will run at the speeds you want to fish at based on weather and water and cover conditions. As is discussed many times with partners fishing, one will run a fast bait and the other a slow bait to check speed controls.
So if you start fishing with a bait and wonder if you should switch think about your depth and speed controls first. Are you already using a bait that fishes well under your conditions that controls your depth and speed of presentation? If you consider changing at this point whatever you switch to should also allow you to control your depth and speed under those conditions.
Now is where the "aids" come into play. Action (vibration), size, and color. Here is where you start to experiment more while still controlling your depth and speed of presentation. This is the area that most anglers get confused on and mistake the reason they're catching or not catching a fish, usually. Much has been written and discussed about color, size, and action of lures. Books and videos are filled with discussion of these things but they're only aids, not controls. If what you're using isn't working, then pick a lure that still gives you depth and speed controls but changes one or more of the "aids" Experiment with colors, sizes, actions/vibrations of the baits. Depth and speed controls being equal sometimes one color will be hot and everything else not. Sometimes the double 10's bucktails with the big vibration will be hot but other times a single willowleaf blade bucktail will be better due to a difference in vibration/action. And so on.
So if you're losing confidence in your baits you're throwing and wonder if you should change or what to change to, then remember depth and speed controls first and change within those parameters first, pick a lure that runs faster or slower, deeper or shallower. Then work on changing baits based upon, size, color, vibration/action.
Hope this helps.
Edited by fishpoop 9/11/2013 12:35 AM
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