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| Video, power point, slide and off the hip are the four types I seminars I see.
Right now I run a mix of power point and slide for my seminars. Before I put together a video presentation, since thats what I am seeing more and more of....I was wondering what type do you learn more from? |
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| I've only been to one seminar(3 day) given by Crash Mullins, Steve Heiting and Jim Saric, but found it most informative; no video but the speakers did an excellent job, especially when using a map etc. There were also on the water demos that were good. Other than that, I have a few VCR tapes that I watch and then go out + try to imitate them, albeit my success rate is a jillion times lower! [:(] [:sun:]
***A sure draw to any seminar would be the inclusion of jumbo shrimp cocktails, hot wings, jerky tray, Velveeta chunks, Pay Days and a keg of Coke Colas.... |
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| J-
I don't think it's the type of media you present it with as much as it is the information you are presenting. If you mix the PowerPoint with slides or video and then do the "off the hip" stuff by answering questions at the end, you've got it covered.
The information presented is the key. One reccomendation is to have a seminar set up for the beginners / intermediates. I have been to a couple seminars and have found that sometimes the more experienced people, (you, Bucher, Heiting, Saric etc) have a tendency to talk a little over the average Joes head. Not by design I'm sure but just because their experiences are more advanced. Don't forget the little guys.
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| Jason,
Can't really coment on the video aspect, I don't go to seminars.
I think you just need to "KEEP IT REAL" if you know what I mean.
The video is just another way to keep the people interested, gives them something to look at so they don't fall asleep.I'm sure the video helps when you are trying to explain something and you have footage to further explain, like proper way to rig a sucker or something like that. But to show pic's of fish just to show pic's is worthless.
A seminar should be a learning experience for "EVERYONE", what is important is what's coming out of your "MOUTH", good information is what it is all about.
I'm sure you have "PLENTY" of that for everyone!!!!!!!!![:bigsmile:] |
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| When giving a talk the one thing that seems if the people learned or liked the presentation is if there are questions asked at the end. If they ask questions, for me that means they where intrested. The last few talks I did where on lure making and bait modifications and I did it with out a slide show. It was more of a "hands on" with people particapation. That seemed to go over good. |
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| I use Powerpoint and at the same time use hands on with the actual equipment,rods,net,release tools etc..I thought about adding in a video clip,but keep telling myself that it would take away from the time needed to give out valuable information,that is more important.Trying to pack as much information as possible into a 1 hour show seminar and get into fine details is a hard task alone.The use of Powerpoint in my seminars is to show a much larger detail of equipment,maps,etc.,as support when I'm speaking.I guess what I'm saying is that anyone can fill the time slot with a video clip of a big musky thrashing,I prefer to try to give out important detailed information that can be used.
Capt. Larry |
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| Jason,
I conduct my current seminars using Power Point, and try to have something of value for everyone from the guy who fishes musky a few times a year to the guy who fishes for them on a regular basis. So far I have recieved some nice compliments...at least their not falling asleep.
Who doesn't like to see video of muskies being caught, and all the better if it's a couple of guys like Pete and Gillespe. But if the intent of the seminar is to be informative as well as entertaining the visual-aids used should be designed as such... Watching slide after slide of big fish that the guy or his clients caught is ok but what is it really doing to aid in the learning process or for the new guys who are eager for information to help them improve their own experiences.
Secondly and equally important is the ability of the speaker to connect with the audience and hold their attention. Some people are more dynamic speakers than others and are more comfortable speaking before an audience, but I have also sat in a seminar where the speaker wasn't all that dynamic but was a wealth of knowledge.
Like most things there needs to be a balance of the components.
my .02 cents...
Curly |
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| Jason
I have to agree with Theedz and Mark,it really doesn't matter type of media you use it IS what you are saying and how you are saying it.I go to seminars to LEARN the main and only reason.With that said my 2 favorite semiars were by board members Mark H and Dave Dorazio.Here are some reasons.
1. I learned something new,like boat postioning on a large weed bed or smaller mid lake humps
2. They are entertaining, say a few jokes,make the crowd feel comfortable,easy to do when the audience has a smile on thier face
3. The presenters took time to explain things in easy to understand detail
4. Be yourself,eg. don't go in depth about trolling if all you do is cast...
5. Be availeable to answer questions after the seminar is over,( away for the crowd),some people are shy or think that thier question is dumb etc. With all of that said,I have listened to one of your seminars,I think it was good and you are well on your way to being one of the greats!
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| Well as an audience member I don't care what one does over another but I always come out learning something new. One needs to listen real well as that one think can be 2 words said at any time.
As a speaker I like to mix it up as much as possible and always change my seminars so I don't get repetitive and boring. Like Larry mentioned you have to try and fit as much good information as you can in your 1 hour slot. I am going to use powerpoint this year and I also am working on maps for something different. [:p] |
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| Thanks for the compliment Paul...I too have heard Dave's presentation and he does a fine job. I have allot of respect for his accomplishments and he is just a good guy overall. By the way I haven't forgoten your "yard sale" but I've been traveling quite a bit.. We'll get together yet this winter...
Something I forgot to add to my previous post.... Like any positive learning environment if there is interaction between the presenter and audience there are often some very good ideas and viewpoints that are shared from the audience side of the equation.
Those of us that may be considered "pro's" don't always have all the answers....and we are in a constant state of learning too. There isn't a season that goes by that I don't learn something new from a client or person who has shared an idea or question at a seminar.
"The only dumb questions are those that aren't asked"...whether in public or private.
Best,
Curly |
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| "Like any positive learning environment if there is interaction between the presenter and audience there are often some very good ideas and viewpoints that are shared from the audience side of the equation" Mark Hintz
Excellent response![:bigsmile:]
I have done 24 seminars and its the little things like taking the time to answer questions afterwards that I enjoy the most. When I do club talks, I run an open forum and encurage the audience to raise thier hands and ask me anything during the talk. That way you if you have to break things down in detail it can be done.
I am working on a new talk and its pure education with respect to detail. I have the layout done, but just wanted to make sure that I dont have to do it all in video, since that seems to be the most common way at shows now. I will use small amounts of video to teach, mixed with power point. Hopefully Worrall will lend me the MF video camera this next season so I can complete the project. |
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| The three day seminar on the water at Cass was probably the best I could imagine...I think video shows the dynamics that words can't explain (ex. twitching, speed on a topwater, working a suick or undertaker, and figure eights). For instance the pool side demos will be excellent for short examples of lure mechanics and presentation styles. Power point is nice to keep the audience following along the outline of the speaker. And maps I think would be critical in a seminar on location. Perhaps aqua view visualization of structure. The adage "see one, do one, teach one" holds so true when performing a complicated task. These are many of the things I would like to see in a seminar. The amount of information that you are willing to share almost ensures your success. |
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| I think video, power point and slides are just aids. To me they don't add to much for content but may keep epople interested or give them a focus of what you are talking about. However, two of my favorite seminars were Dick Pearson's this year and Steve Worrall's last year and they had no presentaion aids whatsoever. |
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| The new seminar 'entertainment' factor developed for the shows the last few years is just that, an entertainment addition to what was a seminar in the past.
They are fun to watch, but sometimes lack in concrete substance in the basic outlines of presentation, which are similar to a magazine article--who, what, when, where, how, and why. Is that a bad thing? No, not if you are in the seminar room to be entertained, watch a big fish boated on video, and maybe pick up a tip or two. If you are there to gather hard core muskie fishing information, application, and ideas, then stick around for the next one, by Dick P, Dave D, or some of the old school guys.
I enjoyed the videos at the Tri Esox show, and enjoyed the 'thinking man's' talks as well. Each has it's place, I guess.
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| By far the most informative seminar, for me, is the 1-2 week on the water, "one on one" in the boat kind by Steve Worrall on his
favorite lake in Canada like.....say.....next summer![:bigsmile:] |
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| The Goon, that big old ugly home of the REALLY fat girls, beckons...Even 3 weeks is not enough. |
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| Jason,
Good topic for discussion. I like going to as many talks as I can in order to pick up bits and pieces of information to add to my arsenal.
If you think of it from an audience point of view, they are there to learn something - whether beginner, novice or expert - they are there to learn. With that said, I think it is important to be organized - especially with your topic content. If you are organized, it is easy to stand back after you have put everything together and look at it from an audience member perspective. Ask yourself if you are providing good solid information or if you are providing jibberish. Ask yourself if you are spending too much time on one topic and not enough on another. Is the presentation going to be too long or too short? Quality of the content keeps people interested during the talk.
They are there to see you talk and see your excitement about topics in person. Slides and video are tools that should be used to help bolster the information you are trying to get across. If you have too much of it or rely on it too much, it takes away from what people came to see, YOU. |
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| I have never been to a Muskie seminar. However, I have been to lots of Bass fishing seminars. Most are a combination of slide shows and talking. What's really nice is when the presenter has some sort of book or tape to reinforce their talk. |
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