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Location: SUN PRAIRIE WI | For as long as I fished I have always kept my pole up when I was fighting A fish.But I have watched quite A few folks on TV put the end down or even in the water when they are fighting A muskie when it gets close to the boat.So when do you lower your pole |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | immediately ... unless you can do it sooner. |
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Location: Madison, WI | fish goes up, pole goes down. fish goes down pole goes up. at least for me anyways |
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Location: Minnesota | danmuskyman - 4/24/2013 6:13 PM
fish goes up, pole goes down. fish goes down pole goes up. at least for me anyways[/QUOTE X2 |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | x3 |
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| x4 When it gets closer to the boat and starts to come to the surface often the muskie will start to jump or head shake on the surface, this is often when i get my rod tip down or in the water in order to keep the muskie under the surface until it is ready to be in the basket. I prefer underwater head shakes much more than on the surface head shakes with the lure flying any which way possible! The resistance of the water when the muskie is trying to spit the lure underwater is much greater then the surface where there is no resistance. My opinion at least.
Edited by ProFishermanJones 4/24/2013 6:49 PM
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Location: Oconomowoc, WI | Anytime a fish's head comes up towards the surface, bury the rod tip and get her back down. Take the fight to the fish. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | swim em under pressure vs. fighting and more will find the bag ... |
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Location: new richmond, wi. & isle, mn | Great advice here. One thing I'll add. Any fish on a short lead can be trouble. Figure eight strike or a fish brought to the boat. Don't sit idle with a fish waiting for a net job. Walk the fish around if possible to the net. Careful if turning a fish, making sure your rods down and its head stays under water. It sounds easy in a perfect battle. Some fish don't play by the rules. |
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Location: Oconomowoc, WI | I agree with both of the previous comments. Keeping a fish's head down and walking it around the boat makes for more fish in the net. The longer rods help a lot with this.
Rod tip up and a fish jumping or up on the surface thrashing leads to sad faces and foul language.
Edited by oconesox 4/24/2013 7:08 PM
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Location: minocqua, wi. | at the end of the day remember it's fishing and it's supposed to be fun ... don't forget to enjoy it! |
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| i personally don't like the rod tip above my waist until the fish is ready to be scooped, the one excepton is if you are try to keep them out of cover (weeds, wood, etc)....and you don't want to lead a fish, rod angle in relation to the fishes mouth is important, usually when I lose a fish the fish is swimming directly at me they open their mouth, head shake, and the tension is toward you pulling the bait out of their mouth... |
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Location: oconomowoc, wi | whats everybody's fighting method when a fish goes into that "crocodile death roll" ? i can't even begin to count the number of fish i have lost when this happens... and during a few tournaments at that.  |
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| fishhawk50 - 4/24/2013 8:51 PM
whats everybody's fighting method when a fish goes into that "crocodile death roll" ? i can't even begin to count the number of fish i have lost when this happens... and during a few tournaments at that. :(
When a fish does that I get on the trolling motor and try to go to them for a quick scoop. Typically for me they've been on the surface, are green but have thrown their senses out of whack with the death roll, and will lay there for a few seconds when they're done trying to figure out what the heck is going on. I try not to unroll them if they have the line wrapped somewhere. |
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Location: Roscoe IL | Awesome thread! |
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| fishhawk50 - 4/24/2013 8:51 PM
whats everybody's fighting method when a fish goes into that "crocodile death roll" ? i can't even begin to count the number of fish i have lost when this happens... and during a few tournaments at that. :(
Give 'em some line, let them wind themselves up in it. Then all you have to do is scoop 'em once they're all tied up and dizzy! 
Makes for a real mess in the net though. |
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Location: Eau Claire,WI | For me,I fish alone.My biggest factor is keeping a tight line before the fish goes into the net. Not too hard after you practice it a few dozen times! Sometimes I let the fish swin around on a slack line if they are hooked real good. Take your time and enjoy the fight... |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | IAJustin - 4/24/2013 9:31 PM
i personally don't like the rod tip above my waist until the fish is ready to be scooped, the one excepton is if you are try to keep them out of cover (weeds, wood, etc)....and you don't want to lead a fish, rod angle in relation to the fishes mouth is important, usually when I lose a fish the fish is swimming directly at me they open their mouth, head shake, and the tension is toward you pulling the bait out of their mouth...
I don't know where I saw this recently I think one of the Salt Water Big Game shows but they also said the rod worked best if kept no higher than horizontal. With the number of reruns on TV I will probably see this again and pay more attention |
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| I have heard a rule of thumb that fish are more likely to be lost if they reach the surface, bottom, or structure. Try to keep the fish away from all three of these and you will have the best shot at landing it.
At boatside, I figure eight a hooked fish to position it for a "landing run."
Brian
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| Good advice in here. Another tip for a guy fishing solo: Have the net ready to rock and in arm's reach. Not doing that cost me two fish last year when they got boat side and jumped while I was trying to get the net ready. |
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Location: Maple Grove, MN | Lots of good advice here. But no matter what you do, the fish will still get off sometimes.
I think its also important to have a couple of not-to-bad words ready if you lose the fish - especially if you have your kids or significant other with. My kids enjoy reminding me about the "words" I said when a big Muskie got off at boatside a couple of years ago. "But Daaa-aaad, you said that when you lost that big fish." 
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| Rod position? Wherever it needs to be to maintain control of the fish and be able to react to it... No one way to do that. I think that's just something you learn along the way. That's the thing about chasing these stupid fish. You can read all you want and listen to whoever you want, watch this or that show, and that's all great. But the only way to learn is by screwing up various things and watching the fish swim off. You learn by catching them, too. But you learn just as much by NOT catching them. |
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Location: Oconomowoc, WI | I totally agree with having the net ready when fishing solo. I keep the handle extended and ready to whenever I'm fishing, regardless of how many people are in the boat. It might only take a second to extend the handle, but a big fish can eat next to the boat and be gone in a heartbeat. I rather be safe than sorry. |
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Location: Pigeon Forge TN. | I agree with the fish up, pole down and visa versa.
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Location: deephaven mn | think what you are refering to is when the fish boat side and makes a run you see alot of guys going down with the fish as the fish is pulling down hard and drag is fairly tight or even too tight. what they are doing is letting the fish pull or acting as drag to keep fish pinned and relive some of the tork |
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Location: Black Creek, WI | It all about line angles for me. If your line enters the water perpendicular to the surface... that is BAD. The more parallel your line is to the surface of the water the better. This way you are loading the hook gap, and not relying on the barb to keep you attached to the fish. As a fish gets closer to the boat... or dives deeper... your line angle increases and your chances of coming un-pinned increases.
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