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| Vegas 492 you hit the nail right on the head! Glad some others see where im coming from. My non trolling thoughts are if Pewaukee wasnt so overpressured by trolling perhaps they could grow as big as the Ochauchee fish!!Now thats and argument. |
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Location: WI | Never seen 8 line trolling where I fish, and trolling is legal with either 2 or 3 lines per angler. In fact, most guys stop at 4 lines total just to keep it less complicated. I'm in WI btw and almost all of the lakes I can troll on are pretty small (sub 1k acres). That said, I don't troll on the small lakes because it's a pain in the @#$ to do it with the weeds and contours. It's easier to cast them. Maybe in a touristy area it would be different, but I think the anti trolling hype is overblown.
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Location: Racine, Wi | Plenty of big fish in Pewee. Probably as many as in Okauchee, but the Okauchee fish tend to be more girthy. Forage differences for sure. I've never heard anyone complaining about the trollers on Pewaukee. I'll even cast the same areas as the guys trolling, and haven't had a problem. Only difference is there's a lot more fish in Pewee, so you get a lot of 32-38" fish in between bigger fish.
Regardless, I think the concerns of lakes being overrun by trollers up nort are unfounded and the typical sky is falling scenario. I didn't care one way or another if this passed, but the reasons for not passing it for the most part are more emotional then practical. I was at the meeting on Monday and one anti trollers actually said that you can get snagged while trolling, and have to cut the line, then swimmers can get stuck in the line that was left over. I got a good chuckle out of that one as that never happens casting.  |
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| Expect more conflict on Pewaukee. The water is getting clearer and the casters are moving out from the shore lines and fishing the deep. Same line as the trollers.
The casters have the right of way. Boating regulations consider a boat trolling to be "under power".
Don't get me started over the sailboats. Sailboats have right away over trollers.
Vote no to statewide trolling.
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| Tom, Yes, David and I had many focused discussions and we agreed to disagree. I was only thinking about the fish and C&R, and he was thinking more about the casual angler lucking into a fish they could keep. I do remember the informational meetings we had at the yacht club. I thought they were helpful, and would eventually lead to the 54" limit. It was also the first time a serious thought about making it C&R only was entertained. Ah, the good old days. I spent a great day later on with David checking nets around Little Sturgeon one spring day. Had a 50+ female and a 45" male in one of the nets. She was full of eggs and ready to drop them. Also got to handle many 10+ lb walleyes and some huge smallies! Never once talked about the 54" limit that day. Agree with TuffDaddy on difference in fish on Pewauke and Ocauchee is the forage. Ciscos make girthier fish in Ocauchee.
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Location: Green Bay, WI | Wow...sounds like a fun time with those nets Shep! And the fact that you were able to spend an entire day with him and *not* talk about the 54" limit only indicates that it was never a personal issue for him. It was what it was--a discussion about a matter that was somewhat controversial due to its complexity. That and the fact that it is a trend-setting issue in Wisconsin shows why it has taken so long.
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| I recently heard someone comment that trolling isn't really fishing. (ouch for those who troll!) Comments like that usually come from narrow-minded people that have little first-hand knowledge of trolling. Outside of Vilas Co, 3-line-per-angler trolling is legal on a large number Wisconsin lakes. I'm not aware of problems this is causing where it's legal other than from people who just like to complain. The fact is most water users don't like to compete with others. Casters don't want to be bothered by trollers, people standing on their docks, pleasure boaters, jet skiers, even other casters etc. Trollers don't like casters parked outside the weed line they want to troll down, waterskiers and people fishing for suspended panfish in their line. Skiers, tubers, pleasure boaters don't like fisherman in their way. Non-tournament people hate seeing "their" lake with the extra traffic caused by tournament anglers. Jet skiers (as much of a nuisance as they are!) may be one of the few water users of the lake that work well with boats of any type that are throwing up a big wake. Wisconsin seems to be one of the very few places that have a problem with the idea of trolling. 3-line trolling seems to come up quite often as the biggest concern, but the complainers would complain even if single-line trolling was allowed. I'm guessing they really don't even like row trollers doing their thing. And what about those casters that are out there in the middle of the lake targeting suspended muskies?!? As stated above, most of the fishing WORLD outside of Vilas County (including much of Wisconsin) allows trolling with few if any serious documented issues negatively impacting the fishery. All I know is I'm a caster and prefer the one-on-one, direct interaction with muskies. But I will help to celebrate any muskie that is caught whatever the technique as long as is not negatively impacting our muskie population. And trolling alone isn't causing a problem. Can anyone site scientific study results that prove otherwise? Most of the comments about how rough trolling is on the fishery are purely speculative. Catch an muskie and let it go!
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Don't get me started over the sailboats. Sailboats have right away over trollers.
Read your rule book!!! Not always
If a boat is under power by a electic motor who has the right of way???
Wouldn't it be the boat that see's the green bow light and NOT the boat who see's the red bow light!!!
Once again, Read your rule book!!!
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| Sorry Dude,
I did - boat under sail has the right of way.
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| Generally, sailboats have the right-of-way over power boats unless the sailboat is overtaking another boat. In that case, the sailboat becomes the "give-way" boat. Additionally, if a sail boat has mechanical propulsion and it is being used, the sail boat, even while still under sail, is suddenly a power boat and must obey the same rules as other power boats.
Once again - read the rule book!!
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