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Nolan
Posted 3/13/2013 5:48 PM (#626225)
Subject: HDS 10 Bow Mounting




Going to be rigging an HDS 10 or 8 to the bow of the Ranger 618vs. I was thinking about using a big Ram Mount with a short arm. Another thought was just screwing the bracket into the floor with six screws or so. Is there anything wrong with this?
cave run legend
Posted 3/13/2013 6:15 PM (#626231 - in reply to #626225)
Subject: Re: HDS 10 Bow Mounting





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I remember you were looking to spend under 10K on a boat. Was the ranger in your price range?
Nolan
Posted 3/13/2013 6:34 PM (#626237 - in reply to #626225)
Subject: Re: HDS 10 Bow Mounting




Nah re thought those plans. Pretty close tho. Came with some H Birds I sold, putting my HDS 7 from the old boat on the console and a HDS 10 on the bow. Gonna be a perfect set up

Edited by Nolan 3/13/2013 6:39 PM
muskyhunter47
Posted 3/13/2013 6:40 PM (#626241 - in reply to #626225)
Subject: Re: HDS 10 Bow Mounting




Posts: 1638


Location: Minnesota
i have the bird 1198si but i have it mounted with the big ram mount long arm.i just thought it would be nicer getting it higher up
Nolan
Posted 3/13/2013 6:54 PM (#626250 - in reply to #626241)
Subject: Re: HDS 10 Bow Mounting




Do you take your unit off every time? I don't like trailering with the units still attached to the boat

Edited by Nolan 3/13/2013 6:55 PM
muskyhunter47
Posted 3/13/2013 7:09 PM (#626256 - in reply to #626225)
Subject: Re: HDS 10 Bow Mounting




Posts: 1638


Location: Minnesota
yes i take them off when on the road
Jerry Newman
Posted 3/13/2013 9:16 PM (#626290 - in reply to #626250)
Subject: Re: HDS 10 Bow Mounting




Location: 31
Nolan - 3/13/2013 6:54 PM

Do you take your unit off every time? I don't like trailering with the units still attached to the boat


Sounds like a nice set-up. I have a 10 mounted in the bow with the large long RAM mount and really like it, they're a bit pricey at $100 but well worth it in my opinion.

I don’t remove the electronics while trailering, and actually use the RAM mount to pivot the unit facedown (with the plastic screen protector on it) over the hoop of my net and then lock it down flat on the front deck.

Edited by Jerry Newman 3/13/2013 9:18 PM
VMS
Posted 3/14/2013 12:04 PM (#626451 - in reply to #626225)
Subject: Re: HDS 10 Bow Mounting





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Location: Elk River, Minnesota
Hiya,

I have the HDS5 up front and do the same thing Jerry does. I turn it face down with the cover on, flat to the floor and lock it down. Does really well...

Steve
nocturnalmotors
Posted 3/14/2013 2:03 PM (#626484 - in reply to #626225)
Subject: Re: HDS 10 Bow Mounting





Posts: 373


Location: Maine Township, MN
I have an HDS5 up front and do the same as Jerry and Steve.

I usually find most of my rigging deals online at iMarine USA for what it's worth.

-Mike
vrmln tr
Posted 3/14/2013 4:21 PM (#626534 - in reply to #626484)
Subject: Re: HDS 10 Bow Mounting




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I have my HDS 10 mounted on a Stabil Mount up front of my Ranger 1860. Works awesome, and gets it up off the floor little bit. I always trailer with the boat covered, so I haven't been removing it unless I am going a long distance.
4amuskie
Posted 3/14/2013 4:23 PM (#626537 - in reply to #626225)
Subject: RE: HDS 10 Bow Mounting




I mounted the bracket right to the access plate in front. Did the same on the dash too. They don't move and no messing with the rams.
esoxfly
Posted 3/14/2013 5:36 PM (#626556 - in reply to #626225)
Subject: Re: HDS 10 Bow Mounting





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Location: Kodiak, AK
I have both of mine on 2.5" long RAM's. I'd suggest playing with their location, front and back. I like having my HDS8 on my console, and my 7 on the bow. I really like the larger screen for driving and navigating. Then fishing, I have my 7 on the bow solely as a chart, and the console HDS8 is turned around to face the bow and is sonar/LSS or a secondary chart on a different zoom if I need it.

It's also nice to have them on the same type of mount, in the event one goes south, you can move the other one into the position yuo need it most at the time.
Pedro
Posted 3/14/2013 5:38 PM (#626557 - in reply to #626225)
Subject: Re: HDS 10 Bow Mounting





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Location: Otsego, MN
I owned a 618vs and had a LCX 111 mounted to the front on a large ram mount. I had that thing locked down solid and I personally thought it was not enough. In rough seas that thing would move around a lot and bang around. I had the same thing on a 620T and it was not bad. The 618 gets abused a bit more than the 620T. I see your in the metro and if you fish tonka a lot your going to see that graph flopping around up there as you cross the main lake on a busy day out there.
I ended up mounting it straight to the floor and it was much better, you can see it just fine no need to elevate a 10 inch I think unless maybe your 7 ft tall or can't see very well.
Nolan
Posted 3/15/2013 12:19 PM (#626815 - in reply to #626225)
Subject: Re: HDS 10 Bow Mounting




Exactly what I was thinking Pedro. A 10inch screen is huge
Jerry Newman
Posted 3/15/2013 2:08 PM (#626864 - in reply to #626815)
Subject: Re: HDS 10 Bow Mounting




Location: 31
Nolan - 3/15/2013 12:19 PM

Exactly what I was thinking Pedro. A 10inch is huge


I agree that a Ram mount tends to move some when up right, even when cranked down tight… so I can understand the argument for not needing one on the bow.

However, in order to get the right viewing angle at the helm these Ram mounts are almost mandatory. I roll with two 10” at the helm and definitely need the adjustment they provide to help shoehorn them onto the dash. I had a problem with them sagging in rough water and had to spin one of the slotted centerpieces of the RAM Mount around to lock one in place while the other unit kind of leans against it… after relocating one mount and some aggravation getting it dialed in they don't budge now.

Regarding the bow unit, when it’s face down flat on the deck there is zero bouncing around that I've seen (I leave it that way when I'm only trolling and have watched it). However, it still has the same kind of minor sagging problem when it's left upright between spots. But I certainly wouldn't consider that flopping around, and it definitely does not bang into anything in my boat anyway. It's just a 2 second nuisance to adjust it back up after pounding waves, but is well worth it for me to be able to quickly adjust the angle of the screen depending on fishing conditions.

All this talk about 10” being huge, banging and flopping…………


Edited by Jerry Newman 3/15/2013 2:10 PM
Top H2O
Posted 3/15/2013 2:16 PM (#626867 - in reply to #626864)
Subject: Re: HDS 10 Bow Mounting




Posts: 4080


Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion
Any of you guys have pics of your mounting..... I'm a visual learner

Jerome
Jerry Newman
Posted 3/16/2013 10:07 AM (#627039 - in reply to #626867)
Subject: Re: HDS 10 Bow Mounting




Location: 31
Top H2O - 3/15/2013 2:16 PM

Any of you guys have pics of your mounting..... I'm a visual learner

Jerome


Hi Jerome, my boat is covered but here's a picture. Like I said; the only problem is that these Ram mounts have a tendency to sag... it was a real pain having to push the GPS back up when it was rough. I came real close to having 2 tension knobs machined to that centerpiece so that I could lock it in place, but ended up just spinning the slots around so that the longer part of the center section wedged it in place.


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4amuskie
Posted 3/16/2013 10:59 AM (#627057 - in reply to #627039)
Subject: Re: HDS 10 Bow Mounting




If you insist on a ram type mount try a Cisco system mount. Guaranteed not to move.
I have my gimbal hard mounted to the boat and have never had an issue with viewing angle ever, but if you want a ram the look at other stuff. There are lots of options besides dealing with the sag.

Jerry Newman
Posted 3/16/2013 12:26 PM (#627083 - in reply to #627057)
Subject: Re: HDS 10 Bow Mounting




Location: 31
4amuskie - 3/16/2013 10:59 AM

If you insist on a ram type mount try a Cisco system mount. Guaranteed not to move.
I have my gimbal hard mounted to the boat and have never had an issue with viewing angle ever, but if you want a ram the look at other stuff. There are lots of options besides dealing with the sag.


Bingo, nice job Jim... I think we have a winner!

These things look awesome and are in the same price range as the Ram mount. I'm pretty sure that had I known about this before I rigged my latest boat I would have used them instead. Unfortunately, although I'm happy with the way it is now, I had to go through a lot of aggravation to eliminate the sag.

This sure looks like a no-brainer and why we share information like this here.




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Top H2O
Posted 3/16/2013 1:03 PM (#627086 - in reply to #627083)
Subject: Re: HDS 10 Bow Mounting




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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion
That looks pretty solid, I may have to go that route instead of the Ram mounts for the Heavier 1198 Bird
BuckeyeMuskie
Posted 3/16/2013 8:23 PM (#627166 - in reply to #626225)
Subject: Re: HDS 10 Bow Mounting




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Cisco fishing systems are made locally here in Cleveland Ohio, his products are second to none. The electronics mount are rock solid. He makes some great rod holders as well.
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