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Location: Kronenwetter, WI | Am used to a maxxum. I've heard shallow water maneuvering can be a bit more difficult with terrova...is that bc u can't operate while "holding the rope"? |
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Location: Gilberts IL/Rhinelander WI | While grabbing the rope is much easier it can be done. You can hold the head of the motor up as well as its pretty easy to adjust it shallower. I think the benefits of auto pilot and not having to teeter on a pedal for 12 hours a day ,greatly outweigh being able to grab the rope. |
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| i don't find it difficult at all - move the head up if you need to go ultra shallow for some reason. |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | Yeah, there's no problems going shallow with a Terrova. |
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Location: Kronenwetter, WI | Thanks...last question...when installing on a 619. (05), anything to keep on mind to avoid whatever problems some guys have loading and unloading? I watched an install video on utube, and it seems if you know how deep to put the trailer when backing in there should not be issues?
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| Cowboyhannah - 1/22/2013 8:22 PM
Thanks...last question...when installing on a 619. (05), anything to keep on mind to avoid whatever problems some guys have loading and unloading? I watched an install video on utube, and it seems if you know how deep to put the trailer when backing in there should not be issues?
Exactly, know where to put the trailer for the angle of ramp you are loading on and you will be fine. Steeper ramp=don't back in quite as far. The other way to do if you want to be safe is to install the sliding quick release mount. Drill a second hole towards the rear, that way you just slide the motor back and out of the way instead of needing to remove it completely.
This one.
http://store.minnkotamotors.com/products/392893/MKA-16-02_Quick_Rel... |
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Location: Gilberts IL/Rhinelander WI | cave run legend - 1/22/2013 9:13 PM
What the trolling motor have to do with launching?
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | The motor can strike the winch stand or parts thereof. Can do quite a bit of damage. |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | I have a 619 and mine sticks out more then I would like...it's all about the launch and angles..Or you can always get a quick release bracket and then slide it in after launching. It's not really an issue when putting boat on trailer
terrova is 10x better then a Maxxum in my opinion... |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | Just get the TM where you want it, and then step back and look at the boat from directly off the bow and make sure that the overhanging part of the TM doesn't overhang the winch tower. If it does, cant the TM however you need to to keep it off the winch. Just watch the other end of the shaft doesn't stick out too far over the gunwhale. Mine is positioned just between the drive head hitting the tower and the iPilot head hanging out over the side of the boat and everything fits. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | Have heard this bracket cures any issues with hitting the winch stand, will be looking to see one at the boat show next week.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL5YpCRNx-0
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Location: Wisconsin | Thanks for video kjgmh! I was concerned about this as well. Hope to get a terrova this winter and I fish lakes with unimproved launches so they often are a challenge. I was worried about busting up my new motor |
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| I didn't get the removable plate on my Terrora. And it cost me. Now I have broken plastic pieces of the motor that need to be fixed. Some landing are just a problem, both in backing in and on loading. I'll be adding the bracket this off-season and then I can just not worry about launching and landing at difficult angled launches. |
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| It is a problem on my Ranger, which is a 185 VS and my buddies Reatta. His Reatta is more the fishing style Reatta and shaped similar to mine, so it stands to reason that it is a concern on Ranger bass style boats. I'm unsure about other boats.
The other thing I've noticed is that my Ranger cover does not cover the boat with this trolling motor. It sticks out too much and it is just enough to make the cover not fit the boat.
Again, the removeable plate cures all ills.... And I wouldn't, repeat, wouldn't trade this trolling motor for a Maxxum or any other cable drive system. |
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Location: Chippewa Falls, WI | this may be dumb question but I'll ask it anyways. I have a triton tr-21 bass boat but I musky fish out of it mostly and want to upgrade my trolling motor. I have a 74lb minnkota on it now and want to put the terrova ipilot on it. Every bass boat I've fished in or remember seeing has the fortrex or something similar...am I missing something or would a terrova with a shorter shaft work for my boat? Also wondering if its worth the money and hassle to go with the 101lb and upgrade to a 36vlt system?
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | buddy of mine has a terrova on a Champion bass boat with a 36v system. His constant raving about how great it is made me do the same to my boat. I would not hesitate to go with that option, you will be blown away by the power and longevity of battery life on that setup. |
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| My Ranger is an 18.5 footer. 24 volt is plenty for me. But if I had a 21 foot boat, I'd certainly get the 36 volt system. I think that my 24 volt has the 42 inch shaft. And I wish it was a little longer, but it was either 42 or 60 for me and 60 was just too long.
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| I have a 19.5 foot bass boat...and 60" shaft is definitely not to long, I've had mine out of the water multiple times and in these conditions I "can" run my 24v system dead.... 21 footer 36v 60" shaft = perfect. |
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Location: Sycamore, IL | adubs - 1/24/2013 10:06 PM
this may be dumb question but I'll ask it anyways. I have a triton tr-21 bass boat but I musky fish out of it mostly and want to upgrade my trolling motor. I have a 74lb minnkota on it now and want to put the terrova ipilot on it. Every bass boat I've fished in or remember seeing has the fortrex or something similar...am I missing something or would a terrova with a shorter shaft work for my boat? Also wondering if its worth the money and hassle to go with the 101lb and upgrade to a 36vlt system?
Thanks,
Adubs
If I understand your question right, the reason the majority of bass fisherman prefer a cable drive motor is because of the instant response time, which is awesome if you fish a lot of shallow stump fields but not necessary if you are working down a deep weedline. The response time on the terrova will be a little bit slower. It all comes down to the way in which you fish the majority of the time. There are always compromises... |
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Location: Chippewa Falls, WI | thanks for the feedback, not sure I'm excited to go through the extra hassle of upgrading my 3 bank on board charger and dealing with all of that but I don't want to regret not getting the right equipment. Looks like the 36v 101 terrova with a 60inch shaft is the right TM for what I'm looking to do. I only bought the boat because of the great price and I fish with both my brothers and dad (all 4 of us from time to time) and it's amazing how easy it is to do with all that deck space. I'm planning on upgrading the TM and swapping my older 797c2 for either a lowrance hds gen 2 touchscreen or newer Hummingbird...would be nice to be able to hook the HB unit up to the terrova but I think I like the touch screen units better. I also have have a connection from a fisherman that is sponsored by lowrance that sells them to me for about 50% of what I would pay in a store...
Once again thanks for the thoughts on going with the terrova
***I did some quick searches for a 4 bank charger and found a minnkota 4 bank 10 or 15 amp. Any suggestions on brand or amp to get to go with the 36v terrova??
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| The other option you have is to buy a single bank charger for the 4th battery. That's what I did. I have a 19' Champion that came with a 24V system. I rewired it (super easy after you diagram it and know what wires are what) for a 36V system and put a 101 Terrova 54" US2/AP on it. No regrets, never run out of battery power even when fishing 12-14 hour days in high winds or current. I have buddies who love the Maxxums and hate Terrovas/PD's, I have buddies who are the opposite. Both work fine, I just don't like standing like a flamingo all day.
I also installed the composite MinnKota quick release bracket on my boat because my cover wasn't made for a TM that sticks out as far as the Terrova does. At the end of the day, I take it off and put it on the floor in front of the seats in the cockpit. Takes about 15 seconds to put on or take off.
I am the guy that pushed Brian to get a 36V system on his new boat after a number of frustrating days where we'd run out of juice or the motor simply did not have enough power for the conditions. I really don't understand why so many people with 18+ foot fiberglass boats use 24V systems. You spend big money to buy these boats and skimp a few hundo to get the proper trolling motor. Doesn't make sense to me. |
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| My 24 volt system has run out on me once. After 7 hours of battling winds that gusted up to 60 mph. Optima batteries are what I run and I have no worries. 18.5 foot Ranger VS, Muskie Edition.
If I were to go to a 36 volt system, I'd need a new charger and more space for another battery. That would be even more weight in the boat. And really I'd only reap the benefit on days when it is so windy that I should probably not be on the water anyway. |
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| I also agree, Vegas, while if you know clearly you have a really large heavy boat, and will be fishing big rough water for very long days, you don't have a choice. But with great power can come great headache. After all the above, -- extra cost of unit itself, ex. $ of another charging bank, ex. $ of another battery, even the first time around.
Now you have to think of all the possibility of having to diagnose shortage or deffect issues multiplied. A set of batteries is only as good as the worst one. If you have one battery not taking a full charge, the others will only perform as well as it. Now you have to figure out is it a bad cell, is it a bad charging bank is it a combination ? I have had very expensive 3 bank chargers have one bank go bad. I have had expensive chargers that dont seem to charge consistently. This can be a nightmare on a Short week trip, when you finally get to the lake you've been dying to fish since, (NOW.)
I am fully on board with 'better to overpower than under power', but think of replacing 3 batteries everytime one goes bad. Even If one goes bad under warranty, they aint gonna warranty two other half-lifers! Ive got a pretty heavy sleigh, especially with an extra 500 pounds of dawgs, and Fifth lake's fat nice try, ))
but plugging in as part of tying up the boat religiously has kept running out of juice very seldom. . I cant imagine THAT many other people capable or crazy enouph to fish 3-5 foot swells for true full days, other than the Hamm himself, and even he takes a break! --for his customers-- :))
If you need it, you know you need it, but only the idiot wants to spend money just to spend money. tough call just my 1.3 cents |
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Location: Gilberts IL/Rhinelander WI | t-bone blades - 2/1/2013 7:22 PM
Ive got a pretty heavy sleigh, especially with an extra 500 pounds of dawgs, and Fifth lake's fat nice try, ) )
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