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muskie24/7
Posted 12/2/2012 6:22 PM (#601038)
Subject: What is this?





Posts: 909


This is the first time I've seen one on a fish in my river! I would guess its a Lamprey(?) Are these a threat to the fishery?!


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CU301DSV
Posted 12/2/2012 7:02 PM (#601057 - in reply to #601038)
Subject: Re: What is this?





Posts: 906


Location: Canada
Yup - lamprey
ToddM
Posted 12/2/2012 8:52 PM (#601109 - in reply to #601038)
Subject: Re: What is this?





Posts: 20212


Location: oswego, il
Could even be native. There are a specie of lamprey in the kankakee river not too far from me that are native to the river.
fluff
Posted 12/2/2012 9:00 PM (#601114 - in reply to #601109)
Subject: Re: What is this?


ToddM - 12/2/2012 8:52 PM

Could even be native. There are a specie of lamprey in the kankakee river not too far from me that are native to the river.
really? That's very interesting I've fished the kank a few times in Indiana, I got a buddy on who fishes it a lot...ill have to ask him about it.
BenR
Posted 12/2/2012 9:10 PM (#601120 - in reply to #601038)
Subject: Re: What is this?


They are native, it is a river lamprey. Some are endangered in rivers like the allegany, so be mindful of them. BR

Edited by BenR 12/2/2012 9:16 PM
MuskieFever
Posted 12/2/2012 9:13 PM (#601125 - in reply to #601038)
Subject: Re: What is this?




Posts: 572


Location: Maplewood, MN
You are correct, it is a Lamprey. Not too sure about its effect on aquatic ecosystems though.
NPike_Guy
Posted 12/2/2012 10:22 PM (#601147 - in reply to #601038)
Subject: Re: What is this?




Posts: 46


Looks like a chestnut lamprey (native).
Thunderpumper
Posted 12/3/2012 7:00 AM (#601172 - in reply to #601038)
Subject: Re: What is this?




Posts: 120


Chestnut Lampery. Native and no threat.
woodieb8
Posted 12/3/2012 8:30 AM (#601183 - in reply to #601038)
Subject: Re: What is this?




Posts: 1529


lots of them on l.s.c. there native. live in creeks then they move into the lake. silver lamprey and brook. we use sidecutters on them.. years back i did an interview with cbc radio. the ont mnr stated they do no harm. when you see holes in muskies i evaluate differently. side cutters.
Zib
Posted 12/3/2012 8:48 AM (#601186 - in reply to #601038)
Subject: RE: What is this?





Posts: 1405


Location: Detroit River

There are Sea Lamprey and Lake Lamprey. Sea Lamprey are an invasive species & are a threat to the Great Lakes & its tributaries. Sea Lampreys decimated the Lake Huron Lake Trout population before they put controls in place to reduce them spawning in the tributaries of the Great Lakes. Sea Lamprey are much larger than Lake Lamprey. Lake Lamprey generally average around 4" to 5" & sea lamprey get over a foot in length & are fatter.


 Here's more info on Sea Lamprey: http://glfc.org/lampcon.php

 

Contender
Posted 12/3/2012 9:23 AM (#601198 - in reply to #601183)
Subject: Re: What is this?




Posts: 360


Location: Algonac, MI
woodieb8 - 12/3/2012 9:30 AM

lots of them on l.s.c. there native. ...we use sidecutters on them..


ID - Chestnut Lamprey...

Care - Same response as woodieb8, but add in using linesmen pliers and filet knives, when cutters are not handy. All are released fully harmed.
North Philly
Posted 12/3/2012 9:50 AM (#601204 - in reply to #601038)
Subject: RE: What is this?


muskie24/7 - 12/2/2012 6:22 PM

This is the first time I've seen one on a fish in my river! I would guess its a Lamprey(?) Are these a threat to the fishery?!

That is one ugly sucker, whatever it is.
ToddM
Posted 12/3/2012 11:46 AM (#601242 - in reply to #601038)
Subject: Re: What is this?





Posts: 20212


Location: oswego, il
Fluff, I netted it while working for a summer with the dnr when I was a teenager while boom shocking the river. Was right there when it was identified. They are rare.
Will Schultz
Posted 12/3/2012 11:52 AM (#601245 - in reply to #601038)
Subject: Re: What is this?





Location: Grand Rapids, MI
How is killing these for no reason any different than someone killing a muskie for no other reason than they eat other fish? Sometimes I'm ashamed to be a muskie angler...


Guest
Posted 12/3/2012 12:00 PM (#601249 - in reply to #601245)
Subject: Re: What is this?


Will Schultz - 12/3/2012 11:52 AM
How is killing these for no reason any different than someone killing a muskie for no other reason than they eat other fish? Sometimes I'm ashamed to be a muskie angler...


It's not any different, Will. Some people just refuse to understand.
charlesb
Posted 12/3/2012 7:08 PM (#601338 - in reply to #601038)
Subject: RE: What is this?




Posts: 111


Location: somewhere!
I'd put it a quick strik rig!!
esoxaddict
Posted 12/3/2012 7:46 PM (#601342 - in reply to #601038)
Subject: Re: What is this?





Posts: 8773


Looks like bait to me...
leech lake strain
Posted 12/14/2012 11:31 AM (#603390 - in reply to #601249)
Subject: Re: What is this?




Posts: 536


Guest - 12/3/2012 12:00 PM

Will Schultz - 12/3/2012 11:52 AM
How is killing these for no reason any different than someone killing a muskie for no other reason than they eat other fish? Sometimes I'm ashamed to be a muskie angler...


It's not any different, Will. Some people just refuse to understand.





Id say there is a difference a big difference!!! a muskie is hardly a parasite!!
sworrall
Posted 12/14/2012 11:58 AM (#603392 - in reply to #601038)
Subject: Re: What is this?





Posts: 32880


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
If you are a sucker, you might not agree with that assessment.
Pointerpride102
Posted 12/14/2012 12:40 PM (#603396 - in reply to #603390)
Subject: Re: What is this?





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
leech lake strain - 12/14/2012 10:31 AM

Guest - 12/3/2012 12:00 PM

Will Schultz - 12/3/2012 11:52 AM
How is killing these for no reason any different than someone killing a muskie for no other reason than they eat other fish? Sometimes I'm ashamed to be a muskie angler...


It's not any different, Will. Some people just refuse to understand.





Id say there is a difference a big difference!!! a muskie is hardly a parasite!!


Well we see who slept through high school biology.
VMS
Posted 12/14/2012 1:14 PM (#603407 - in reply to #603396)
Subject: Re: What is this?





Posts: 3479


Location: Elk River, Minnesota
Pointerpride102 - 12/14/2012 12:40 PM

leech lake strain - 12/14/2012 10:31 AM

Guest - 12/3/2012 12:00 PM

Will Schultz - 12/3/2012 11:52 AM
How is killing these for no reason any different than someone killing a muskie for no other reason than they eat other fish? Sometimes I'm ashamed to be a muskie angler...


It's not any different, Will. Some people just refuse to understand.





Id say there is a difference a big difference!!! a muskie is hardly a parasite!!


Well we see who slept through high school biology.


I agree...someone slept through high school biology...



organism living on another: a plant or animal that lives on or in another, usually larger, host organism in a way that harms or is of no advantage to the host
IAJustin
Posted 12/14/2012 1:28 PM (#603410 - in reply to #603407)
Subject: Re: What is this?




Posts: 2010


I'm not following this conversation? are you saying a muskie is parasitic or are you say a chestnut lamprey is not parasitic?

http://www.miseagrant.umich.edu/downloads/ais/97-500-five-lampreys....

Brad P
Posted 12/14/2012 1:41 PM (#603413 - in reply to #601038)
Subject: Re: What is this?




Posts: 833


That didn't take long to get off track...
Will Schultz
Posted 12/14/2012 2:06 PM (#603424 - in reply to #603407)
Subject: Re: What is this?





Location: Grand Rapids, MI

VMS - 12/14/2012 2:14 PM
Pointerpride102 - 12/14/2012 12:40 PM

leech lake strain - 12/14/2012 10:31 AM

Guest - 12/3/2012 12:00 PM

Will Schultz - 12/3/2012 11:52 AM
How is killing these for no reason any different than someone killing a muskie for no other reason than they eat other fish? Sometimes I'm ashamed to be a muskie angler...


It's not any different, Will. Some people just refuse to understand.





Id say there is a difference a big difference!!! a muskie is hardly a parasite!!


Well we see who slept through high school biology.


I agree...someone slept through high school biology...

organism living on another: a plant or animal that lives on or in another, usually larger, host organism in a way that harms or is of no advantage to the host

Really? Doesn't a balanced aquatic ecosystem contain a variety of species?

Lampreys don't charm most people, but "they clearly have a valuable role in biodiversity and the ecosystem," said Peter Sorensen, professor of fisheries, wildlife, and conservation at the University of Minnesota. "These ancient fish aren't well understood but they are incredibly efficient filter feeders, an extremely important link between the benthos and fish communities, and sensitive to environmental degradation."

http://www.seagrant.umn.edu/newsletter/2002/03/lake_superiors_native_lampreys.html

killroy
Posted 12/14/2012 2:12 PM (#603426 - in reply to #601038)
Subject: Re: What is this?




Posts: 20


Location: Bowling Green, Kentucky
Tried bouncing one for walleye one time to no avail. We have them all over our river musky. They are making a big comeback around here. Saw a ky fish and wildlife boat shocking them up for samples last spring. They pulled 5 off one musky. If a musky was your pet, the lamprey would be a tick. I smash em.
esoxaddict
Posted 12/14/2012 2:20 PM (#603431 - in reply to #603392)
Subject: Re: What is this?





Posts: 8773


sworrall - 12/14/2012 11:58 AM

If you are a sucker, you might not agree with that assessment.


Or a walleye fisherman...
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