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Message Subject: Rod and reel for first time muskie/pike hunter
Piking00
Posted 4/21/2013 8:35 PM (#636562)
Subject: Rod and reel for first time muskie/pike hunter


So I'm taking a fishing trip up to Canada for a week or so and want to do some Muskie/Pike fishing for the first time, but I need a new rod and reel. I don't go up to Canada often enough to need a specific muskie rod (8-9' XXHeavy, you know that kind of rod) so I want one that I can use for more than just muskie and pike.

I plan to be using 50lb braid with Daredevils, Syclops spoons, X-raps, stuff like that. What I had in mind was a Penn Regiment Inshore Casting Rod (REGIN1220C70), 7', 12-20 Mono rating, throws a 1/2-1 1/2 lure, with a Penn Fathom Star Drag Reel (FTH15), 270yd of 50lb braid. Any comments on that setup? Or any other ideas? Also, is 50lb braid a little much, and what color line should I use?

Thanks in advance
Nolan
Posted 4/21/2013 9:03 PM (#636577 - in reply to #636562)
Subject: Re: Rod and reel for first time muskie/pike hunter




Get a tackle industry mh 1-6 ounce with a shimano curado 300. Put 65lb or 80lb braid on it so you won't cast off baits and when you backlash you can pick them out. Ready to Rock!
muskie! nut
Posted 4/21/2013 9:27 PM (#636585 - in reply to #636562)
Subject: Re: Rod and reel for first time muskie/pike hunter





Posts: 2894


Location: Yahara River Chain
If this is your 1st baitcaster, I'd get a reel with a crank on the same side as your spinning outfits, it'll make your hook sets quicker and harder and impart the actions (like on those X-Raps to get those muskie to hit the lure. I also like upgrading to 65 or 80 lb test braid..
bigfoot
Posted 4/21/2013 9:29 PM (#636586 - in reply to #636562)
Subject: RE: Rod and reel for first time muskie/pike hunter





Posts: 246


Location: Grand Marais, MN
dont know what other kind of fishing you do, but a heavy bass rod, something like a swimbait or flippin stick can make good pike rods. can handle 2oz pretty easily. then when you aren't in canada the rod can still be a useful tool in certain applications.

with the type of lures you want to throw, you could easily get away with 50lb braid, put it on a big bass reel like a curado 300e or revo toro. Then you got a whole setup that can do more than just esox fishing.
James
Posted 4/21/2013 10:04 PM (#636597 - in reply to #636577)
Subject: Re: Rod and reel for first time muskie/pike hunter


Nolan - 4/21/2013 9:03 PM

Get a tackle industry mh 1-6 ounce with a shimano curado 300. Put 65lb or 80lb braid on it so you won't cast off baits and when you backlash you can pick them out. Ready to Rock!


Check out the telescopic TI rods too if storage is an issue or your doing a fly in. Great rods.

http://www.tackleindustries.com/muskypikerods.html

Piking00
Posted 4/21/2013 11:12 PM (#636609 - in reply to #636562)
Subject: RE: Rod and reel for first time muskie/pike hunter


Thanks for the suggestions.

I saw the tackle industry mh but I thought it would be a little big, considering most of the stuff I'm throw is around the 3/4 to 1 1/4oz range.

Also with the revo toro, are there any differences with the winch and NaCI that would make me prefer one over the other or over the regular toro?
bigfoot
Posted 4/22/2013 12:28 AM (#636613 - in reply to #636609)
Subject: RE: Rod and reel for first time muskie/pike hunter





Posts: 246


Location: Grand Marais, MN
the revo winch is a really low gear ratio, meaning a more power but less speed. doesnt sound like you are throwing hard pulling lures, so you probably dont want the winch. as far as i know the NaCl is "salt safe" revo.

dont forget on your rod, even though you dont want to overdo it on it's range for lure castability, you are fishing for a couple of big species that fight pretty hard, and you certainly want a level of control over them with a proper rod. We catch musky while jigging for walleye on a few occasions, and although its possible to land them on 6lb fluoro and a 6' rod, it isn't the best way to go about it. Funny though.

So dont go too light, you could potentially hook into a 50 inch fish only to realize you cant control her
bowhunter29
Posted 4/22/2013 9:01 AM (#636644 - in reply to #636562)
Subject: Re: Rod and reel for first time muskie/pike hunter





Posts: 908


Location: South-Central PA
Piking00,

I am able to throw a 3/4 oz rattletrap with my TI MH with no issues. If you're mainly throwing 1 oz and up, you should be fine. I have mine paired with a Revo SX spooled with 50lb Power Pro.

jeremy
The Swan
Posted 4/22/2013 9:33 AM (#636652 - in reply to #636562)
Subject: RE: Rod and reel for first time muskie/pike hunter


IMHO what you suggest should work fine. I would test my outfit(s) out at a local lake. Does it handle the 1 ounce spoon, for pike, and whatever else you want to throw for muskie. I wouldn't throw any lure that is too heavy for my rod. My lightest rod for these fish is 8-20 lb. My usual for muskie is 15-30 lb., although I go up to 40 lb. for jerk baits. I don't think you need to go heavier than 50 lb. braid for what you have in mind. I feel perfectly comfortable casting for pike with 14 lb. extra tough mono--so long as it is fresh. For skis I go up to 65 lb. braid. If this is your first time after these fish, just try and catch some. Don't worry about a lunker. Good luck.
CU301DSV
Posted 4/22/2013 10:32 AM (#636662 - in reply to #636644)
Subject: Re: Rod and reel for first time muskie/pike hunter





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Location: Canada
bowhunter29 - 4/22/2013 10:01 AM

Piking00,

I am able to throw a 3/4 oz rattletrap with my TI MH with no issues. If you're mainly throwing 1 oz and up, you should be fine. I have mine paired with a Revo SX spooled with 50lb Power Pro.

jeremy


Hmm ... that sounds like a pretty simple and yet effective combo. Also pretty close to the combo I just picked out for bass and pike - Abu Garcia Veritas and Revo S.
MuskieCat94
Posted 4/22/2013 1:00 PM (#636701 - in reply to #636562)
Subject: RE: Rod and reel for first time muskie/pike hunter




Posts: 532


Location: Ogden, UTAH 10 minutes from pineview reservoir
i have a like new 9'/8'6 mh TI rod i am selling if your interested pm me. Great rod for the size of baits you are wanting to throw
muskyhunter47
Posted 4/22/2013 1:40 PM (#636710 - in reply to #636562)
Subject: Re: Rod and reel for first time muskie/pike hunter




Posts: 1638


Location: Minnesota
don't start .catch That first musky and your hooked it's to late for me .I don't needany more baits but I spent over 500 bucks on baits alone last weekend.if I could give up musky fishing and just fish for walleye I would bbe a rich man lol.it comes down to how much you want to spend .You can get a cheap combo for 200 bucks and it goes up from there. I'm not saying buy cheap but what you can afford and be happy and catch fish.
Piking00
Posted 4/22/2013 2:49 PM (#636731 - in reply to #636562)
Subject: RE: Rod and reel for first time muskie/pike hunter


Hey thanks for the help guys.

So now I'm looking at a TI 7' 6" MH one piece and Revo Toro. I just can't decide which Toro to get, the regular, winch, or NaCL, also not sure whether to get the 50 or 60, anyone have any advice on this? I was thinking the NaCL 60 5.4 since it seems I'll be able to use it for more than just muskie and pike (I mean I only go up to Canada for a week or two once a year, I'd like to be able to use the rod and reel for other fish down here in Florida if possible) I'll probably put 65lb braid on it I'm thinking, unless I can be convinced otherwise.

Also, anyone else have any experience throwing lures in the 3/4 - 1 1/2 oz range with a TI MH?
cave run legend
Posted 4/22/2013 2:55 PM (#636733 - in reply to #636562)
Subject: Re: Rod and reel for first time muskie/pike hunter





Posts: 2097


Why would you consider the winch when someone posted its for hard pulling baits? Go ahead and get a nacl 5::4:1 60.
Piking00
Posted 4/22/2013 3:10 PM (#636736 - in reply to #636733)
Subject: Re: Rod and reel for first time muskie/pike hunter


Oh, didn't see that. Thanks for pointing it out
muskyhunter47
Posted 4/22/2013 3:19 PM (#636737 - in reply to #636562)
Subject: Re: Rod and reel for first time muskie/pike hunter




Posts: 1638


Location: Minnesota
Sounds like you know what you want .thorn bros has a on line sale this week might be able to pick up your reel.and a few baits while your. at it.
wicked
Posted 4/22/2013 3:40 PM (#636742 - in reply to #636562)
Subject: Re: Rod and reel for first time muskie/pike hunter




Location: sneaking out to get on the water ;-)
If your fishing saltwater in florida get a NaCl the 50 size are what I prefer and I actually like the hs 6.4 ones for everything up to dbl 8s. A mh should be perfect my favorite rod is an 8' mh with the revo toro hs on it with 80# braid.
Nolan
Posted 4/22/2013 4:52 PM (#636759 - in reply to #636562)
Subject: Re: Rod and reel for first time muskie/pike hunter




Saltwater is sooo fun, a five pound tuna owned any muskie I ever caught..
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