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| heres the deal i am starting to fish for big bass 2pounds plus and pike at the same time. i dont want to lose a pike but i dont want to scare off the big bass. i want to be casting lures in the 1/2oz range to the 2oz range without affecting the motion of the lure. i am getting hi seas quattro flurocarbon material and i dont know if i should get 60lb or 80lb. i would go with 60lb but i think it would get bitten off. tell me what you think. should i go with 80lb or 60lb. |
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Location: Appleton, WI | I use 40 lb and have not had any issues in this situation. Watch for nicks and have some new ones ready to go. The pike have been to 42" in length. |
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| id just go with the 80, how much of a difference it would make im not sure but why not more security, its easy to tie as well and you can tie it directly to the main line |
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| Thanks i think im gonna go with the 80lb test. i went to musky school about a month ago and he told me that if you use heavy flurocarbon the musky wont cut your line unless the bite it multiple times. so i want to know if that would be the same with pike for 80lb test flurocarbon. keep in mind that we were using 130lb flurocarbon. and also i am fishing for big bass with lures around 4-6 inches so a big pike would still go after it so if you guys could wrap it up for me that would be great. thanks for the help and hope you can answer that for me. |
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| Try 20# TygerWire or similar w/American Leader Wire. It's thinner and less visible than the heavy mono, absolutely secure from bite-off, and doesn't scare bass. You can tie any regular knot in it. I took a 4# smallie on a musky fly using that leader. Heavy mono works...unlil you lose a trophy fish! I do a LOT of fly-fishing for pike (see my book, TOOTHY CRITTERS LOVE FLIES) and used 60# hard mono, but just lost too many big fish. |
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Location: London, England | PikeFlyGuy - 6/20/2012 3:38 PM Try 20# TygerWire or similar w/American Leader Wire. It's thinner and less visible than the heavy mono, absolutely secure from bite-off, and doesn't scare bass. You can tie any regular knot in it. I took a 4# smallie on a musky fly using that leader. Heavy mono works...unlil you lose a trophy fish! I do a LOT of fly-fishing for pike (see my book, TOOTHY CRITTERS LOVE FLIES) and used 60# hard mono, but just lost too many big fish. I would agree. If you're fishing a moving bait I doubt a bass would be any more bothered by a steel leader than a pike or musky would be. If you were fishing a worm along the bottom slowly, then there would probably be a problem, but a moving bait, I'd go with a steel leader. FC's alright until it isn't! |
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Location: SE, WI. | The pike fly guy knows his stuff. I have many top 3 finishes in bass tourneys. My bait choice was a fandango/jig combo. I had no problems fishing pike /bass on light wire presentations and never thought it was a detorant from strikes. There is really no need for floro IMO. Besides, wire is thinner and will come threw weeds and slice weeds alot more efficient than any floro. Get a 20 or 30lb 7 strand or 19 strand wire material, and have piece of mind when It comes to bite offs. Like floro, you will need several leaders ready to go because wire does kink. You will be amazed how many different game fish will eat your presentation with wire...;-) |
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| I haven't had any problems with 80lb, but the average size of the pike in the lakes that I fish at is under 30". Not sure what the likelihood of getting bit off would be with a bigger fish. The bass don't seem to mind whether it's fluoro or wire, but I always feel better with fluoro. |
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| thanks for the help but im looking for flurocarbon because i am using lures wich the wire will affect the lures action. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | If you use 7 strand in 20# or 30# it will effect the lures action way less than 80# fluoro. |
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| Are you fly fishing? I know folks who don't like the wire becasue it sinks and detracts from the action of a fly, they all use floro. I'm playing around with 60# floro leaders for pike this season (up to about 20lbs around me) but haven't really had a true test on the line yet. I've been using a loop-to-loop on the butt end and tying the floro directly to the fly with a figure 8 knot for the open loop...not sure it's the best way, but it seems to pull-test well and gives the fly the best action.
Definitely following this thread though! |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | I usually run a 3' 20# fluro leader with a back to back uni knot. This way you can reel it all the way into your guides and it's a strong knot. I haven't had any bite offs while doing this and it doesn't affect the bait nor the fish much if at all. 80# is a bit overkill for pike and will affect your baits action. Just be willing to do a bit of cutting once you start catching some pike. |
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Location: London, England | I do quite a bit of fly fishing for pike and have had some nice ones to over 30lb. I use a cut down 15 weight shooting head, 40lb leader and a 12-18" plastic coated 35lb 19 strand AFW wire tippet with a size 4 stringease snap on the end. Sounds crude, but the fish don't mind. They eat the 12" flies even when you crawl them along really slowly. Never had a tackle failure yet, plenty of human error resulting in missed fish, but the tackle's always stood up fine. |
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