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| I have always wondered....... |
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| Only thing I can come up with is colors...I think? Got me....[:p]
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| Action wise, I think they are very similar. The swim wizz has a squared off end of the tail where the believer is rounded. The believer comes in 6, 7, 8 and 10 inch sizes, the swim wizz only comes in 6 and 8. |
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| From what I remember, Joe from Tackle Specialty told me that it was the way that they were molded. I can't remember the specifics, but the Swim Whizz's aren't as pricey.
Both are good baits though and I got 'em in my box.
Rob[:praise:] |
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| The only difference I've seen are the three Swim Whiz's on my wall that split apart down the back while sitting in my box. Haven't had that problem with my Believers. |
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| Jason from what I've heard at one time it was a partnership business and the two parties split and went their separate ways.
I dunno...I have both brands and use them on a semi-regular basis and haven't had any problems.
Mark |
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| I have just noticed...this!
Believer...has looped hook hangers, with mustad hooks
Swim Wiz...has screw eyes in the main body..and Eagle claw hooks
Hook placement on both is the same. |
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I’m really straining my memory on this one. As I recall, the Swim Whiz was designed and marketed by that famous Musky guide from Lake St. Clair whose name escapes me. I recall that he was this first one I saw running rod tips in the water to prevent weed build-up and he ran really short lines. I also recall that he fished from an inboard sedan cruiser and had one blade of the prop chrome plated as a fish attractor.
No doubt, like almost every other lure, the manufacturer has changed hands several times. I expect he had a patent on the design that probably expired about the time the solid Believer came on the scene. The first Believers I saw, back in the early 70’s, were jointed models and that was all they made. I think I might still have one somewhere in fluorescent green with red spots. The joint was a wire circle molded into each section connected by a substantial split ring.
They never caught on in Chautauqua, neither the Believer nor the Swim Whiz, and I had a terrible time getting rid of the stock I had in the store. I finally gave a guy who fished the St. Lawrence and the Niagara a heckuva’ deal on the whole batch. Burmeks never caught on either – I think I finally stripped the hooks and tossed the bodies in the burn pile.
Pat Corey |
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| swim whizz crankbaits were made by the legendary guide Homer Leblanc who did a lot of trolling on Lake St Clair. He worked together with some people to mass produce the swim whizz but apparently they went their seperate ways and at some point in time they discontinued the swim whizz crankbaits. The ones sold today aren't the original ones, because those has three trebles.
These lures are my absolute best casting/trolling lure, next to supershadraps. I wouldn't leave my home without at least a few of them in my lure box. Best models for pike are the 6" straight model with 3 trebles and the 7.5" straight model with three trebles.
As far as the difference goes, I have read over and over again that they were made from the same mold (makes sense, seeing as these people went their seperate ways at some point in time, so they both had the same knowledge) but that the interior design is different. Swim whizz lures have many small chambers, we call them waffels (after the Brussels Waffels, a desert). These are smaller chambers, seperated by a sort of plate inside. These plates are positioned at equal distance from eachother and they contain air. Believers ahev the same looks on the outside but they have rattles and they don't have this waffel-interior.
I must say, swim whizz lures are weird. I have one 8" straight model that does rattle. Go figure! It's the only one I have that does rattle.
One last thing: if anybody is looking to get rid of these 8" or 6" three treble swim whizz lures, YOU KNOW WHERE TO FIND ME!!![:bigsmile:] [:bigsmile:] [:bigsmile:] |
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| As much as i used like whizzes, i have fun into problems with them leaking which is a problem i have not had w/ believers otherwise they are basically the same. |
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| I have one 6" bulfrog swim whizz that I have had to glue. It took about 30 pike in 4 days, average length of these pike was 65-75cm. I have never seen a color pattern being removed from a bait so fast as that week! And finally one bit through the plastic. I let it dry for a week and fixed the hole with epoxy. Now it's as good as new and it keeps catching! |
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