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Message Subject: Any Lake trout patterns out there
ghitierman
Posted 4/1/2012 1:23 AM (#549867)
Subject: Any Lake trout patterns out there





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I am going to be fishing a lake trout lake. Why wouldn't a musky eat a lake trout? Any body have any to show?
Kingfisher
Posted 4/3/2012 12:04 PM (#550382 - in reply to #549867)
Subject: RE: Any Lake trout patterns out there




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Location: Muskegon Michigan
Muskies do eat Lake trout. Johnny Dadson had me build this 21 inch Deepthreat for him a few years back. This is the blank before running the wire through and top coating the bait. We used a photo of an actual lake trout and made a stencil of the spots. It took a long time but now I can paint lake trout in any size Deep threat. The Olive body is painted first and the spots are Createx Chameleon gold. After the spots are on we use transparent dark olive to finish shading the bait after its all finished and assembled. This gives it depth and life.

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SolarFall
Posted 4/3/2012 12:38 PM (#550396 - in reply to #549867)
Subject: RE: Any Lake trout patterns out there




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Location: Finland
i did do one like a year ago, i don't know if the pattern is any close what you guys have over there but here it is, i basically just made a trout with slightly darker overall color.


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Landonfish
Posted 4/3/2012 8:35 PM (#550529 - in reply to #550382)
Subject: RE: Any Lake trout patterns out there




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Kingfisher - 4/3/2012 1:04 PM

Muskies do eat Lake trout. Johnny Dadson had me build this 21 inch Deepthreat for him a few years back. This is the blank before running the wire through and top coating the bait. We used a photo of an actual lake trout and made a stencil of the spots. It took a long time but now I can paint lake trout in any size Deep threat. The Olive body is painted first and the spots are Createx Chameleon gold. After the spots are on we use transparent dark olive to finish shading the bait after its all finished and assembled. This gives it depth and life.



Would love to see this thing swimming!
Pikopath
Posted 4/4/2012 2:14 AM (#550586 - in reply to #549867)
Subject: Re: Any Lake trout patterns out there




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Location: Norway
Psst. Mikko, lake trout is not a trout that lives in freshwater (we have trout, salmo trutta, in both salt and freshwater) but its Harmaanieriä

Michael
SolarFall
Posted 4/4/2012 8:20 AM (#550617 - in reply to #549867)
Subject: Re: Any Lake trout patterns out there




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Location: Finland
psst we do have lake salmon(Salmo salar m. sebago) and lake trouts( Salmo trutta lacustris) here in finland Michael that don't go to the sea and have adapted to live in freshwater all there lifes but yeah i know lake trouts in north america do look different compred to what we have here.
Kingfisher
Posted 4/4/2012 3:14 PM (#550746 - in reply to #550617)
Subject: Re: Any Lake trout patterns out there




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Location: Muskegon Michigan
Here is a Canadian Lake trout. This is what I did mine around.


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CU301DSV
Posted 4/7/2012 9:25 AM (#551438 - in reply to #549867)
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Location: Canada
21" Deep Threat !! Great lake trout pattern!
ghitierman
Posted 4/9/2012 11:04 AM (#551857 - in reply to #549867)
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That is an awesome pattern. I wonder why it's the only one.
horsehunter
Posted 4/9/2012 12:01 PM (#551871 - in reply to #549867)
Subject: Re: Any Lake trout patterns out there




Location: Eastern Ontario
What size hooks do you use on a 21 inch lure?
Kingfisher
Posted 4/9/2012 6:28 PM (#551975 - in reply to #551871)
Subject: Re: Any Lake trout patterns out there




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Location: Muskegon Michigan
Mustad 3551 in a 10/0 with 7 H Triple rings. Its a big bait for sure but not the biggest one out there. There are some Canadians that make or have made some up to 31 inches. I have several clients who have actually caught some good fish on the 21 inch model. I am always painting that lure in Big forage patterns like salmon and trout, Walleye and Pike, Carp, but the best producing has been in Whitefish. Big Great Lakes Muskies love Whitefish. Here is a finished 21 in Whitefish .Mike


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MuskyLureFreak
Posted 4/9/2012 6:48 PM (#551980 - in reply to #549867)
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that's a beast Mike.. Ray
Kingfisher
Posted 4/9/2012 7:17 PM (#551991 - in reply to #551980)
Subject: Re: Any Lake trout patterns out there




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Location: Muskegon Michigan
The diving lip is 3/8th Polycarbonate. 7 inches long and 5.25 wide at the widest part of the lip. The lure is over 25 inches long with the lip. The wood is exactly 21 inches from tail to nose. It has 4 lead pockets in the belly to stabilize it. They run at 3 to 5 mph and will diver over 30 feet. The guys who run them use Halibut rods spooled with 150 pound braid line and 135 lb(49 strand) stainless shark braid leaders. Mike
Guest
Posted 4/9/2012 10:11 PM (#552058 - in reply to #549867)
Subject: RE: Any Lake trout patterns out there


how wide is that beast???
jlammusky
Posted 4/10/2012 8:18 AM (#552114 - in reply to #549867)
Subject: Re: Any Lake trout patterns out there





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Location: montreal, canada
I'm actully fishing at montreal in st lawrence river and i can tell one thing . There his big fish out here . I always say that here 50 inch fish are dayly catches . Without no lie . Poeple that fish 2 mountain lake and st louis lake above montreal will say the same !!!

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Kingfisher
Posted 4/10/2012 11:53 AM (#552171 - in reply to #552058)
Subject: RE: Any Lake trout patterns out there




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Location: Muskegon Michigan
Guest - 4/9/2012 11:11 PM

how wide is that beast???


The body is cut from custom planed Cedar boards that are 1.675 thick. They look like a fat 2 by 6 . After sanding the body is about an inch and a half then they get 6 coats of ETEX which brings them back to about 1.675.

I get all of my wood from a sawyer that cuts local here in west Michigan. I buy huge sections of old telephone poles and he saws them up for me. The wood is very old and very hard. W e shave them down until we get to good wood then make planks at various thicknesses. I only by sections that have very thin growth rings(tight grain). This is important as it really helps in machining . The tighter the grain the smoother it machines and the harder the wood. Mike
Guest
Posted 4/10/2012 12:24 PM (#552183 - in reply to #549867)
Subject: RE: Any Lake trout patterns out there


very impressive!! looks like you're using a bike spoke for the wire tie and it looks like that must weigh about 2-3 lbs
Guest
Posted 4/10/2012 12:26 PM (#552187 - in reply to #549867)
Subject: RE: Any Lake trout patterns out there


very impressive!! looks like you're using a bike spoke for the wire tie and it looks like that must weigh about 2-3 lbs
Kingfisher
Posted 4/10/2012 3:12 PM (#552250 - in reply to #552187)
Subject: RE: Any Lake trout patterns out there




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Location: Muskegon Michigan
Its .078 302 stainless wire. Its called half hard meaning its a medium temper. I buy it 75 pounds at a time in a coil. I use it on all the big baits from the 7.5 inch Magnum shad all the way to this 21 inch Deep threat. It is real strong wire. Mike
stidementeur
Posted 4/10/2012 7:35 PM (#552315 - in reply to #552114)
Subject: Re: Any Lake trout patterns out there


jlammusky - 4/10/2012 8:18 AM

I'm actully fishing at montreal in st lawrence river and i can tell one thing . There his big fish out here . I always say that here 50 inch fish are dayly catches . Without no lie . Poeple that fish 2 mountain lake and st louis lake above montreal will say the same !!!

then i wish you to catch your first 50+
MRichardson
Posted 4/11/2012 11:48 AM (#552460 - in reply to #551975)
Subject: Re: Any Lake trout patterns out there





Kingfisher - 4/9/2012 6:28 PM Mustad 3551 in a 10/0 with 7 H Triple rings. Its a big bait for sure but not the biggest one out there. There are some Canadians that make or have made some up to 31 inches. I have several clients who have actually caught some good fish on the 21 inch model. I am always painting that lure in Big forage patterns like salmon and trout, Walleye and Pike, Carp, but the best producing has been in Whitefish. Big Great Lakes Muskies love Whitefish. Here is a finished 21 in Whitefish .Mike

 

Kingfisher - Wow that is huge bait!  Very cool!  Just out of curiosity, what is the smallest fish caught on one of those?

Kingfisher
Posted 4/14/2012 3:36 PM (#553073 - in reply to #552460)
Subject: Re: Any Lake trout patterns out there




Posts: 1106


Location: Muskegon Michigan
MRichardson - 4/11/2012 12:48 PM

Kingfisher - 4/9/2012 6:28 PM Mustad 3551 in a 10/0 with 7 H Triple rings. Its a big bait for sure but not the biggest one out there. There are some Canadians that make or have made some up to 31 inches. I have several clients who have actually caught some good fish on the 21 inch model. I am always painting that lure in Big forage patterns like salmon and trout, Walleye and Pike, Carp, but the best producing has been in Whitefish. Big Great Lakes Muskies love Whitefish. Here is a finished 21 in Whitefish .Mike

 

Kingfisher - Wow that is huge bait!  Very cool!  Just out of curiosity, what is the smallest fish caught on one of those?



Im not sure but to date I know of a 42 and 44 that were caught on one in King Salmon color and a 54 and 55 on a walleye colored one. The 42 and 44 were caught the same day. Mike
jackpotjohnny48
Posted 4/18/2012 7:56 AM (#553943 - in reply to #549867)
Subject: RE: Any Lake trout patterns out there




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Location: Madison, WI
Here's one that Tyler Wolf (wolftackle84) did for me...

"Jackpot" John Schroeder


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