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| I can't see throwing a 4-5" Creature and catching fish on it....speed trolling spinnerbaits at 7mph all summer seems weird....jigging a Fuzzy Duzzit all day would make me kill myself out of boredom.....but Worrall, Richard Collin and Bruce Shumway make a living off these tactics. To each his own on his body of water I suppose.
And for a client to take a guide's spot in that manner of fishing, it's just rude, and I think very few people would do it. But then again, people catch fish with Burmeks, so anything is possible I guess.
If it isn't your preferred way of fishing, that's your preferance. Phishin you and your brothers fish the same body of water I do....you guys fish about 15-35ft shallower than I do for the majority of the time. You catch fish, I catch fish. There are many ways to skin a cat, or in this case, to catch a muskie.
Slamr
*if you started this thread to start controversy, please go elsewhere to do that.
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I had some legit questions and thanks to everyone who answered them without this thread getting out of hand.
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| Steve: Before buying my first boat last winter, I had no option but to shore fish. I was very successful all over the Twin Cities and had my honey holes.
Since buying my boat, I have not shore fished once this year, go figure, eh?
A couple of concerns I have for anglers shore fishing is they always, and I mean ALWAYS, use single hooks. No circle hooks (Mustad 10/0 or 11/0 or the Quick strike). They always let the fish run for minutes before setting the hook. This practice makes me sick! Ok - I am off the topic now...
Seriously though, I do know the shore fishing has been good from some friends. These people do not care about the survival of the fish. They don't have bolt cutter, nets, etc...They are just looking to bring home a 40 incher - Period!
When I shore fished, I used quick strike or the Mustad hooks, and caught plenty to make me happy. I had my holes and invited friends and they could not believe the fish we'd pull in.
To each their own, but I really feel we need to somehow educate these shore anglers about the Muskie, proper release techniques, etc.
If they could only get addicted to this sport, it would change their mind. I say that, because I said I would always keep my first 45 plus incher and mount it. I have boated my 2 biggest fish ever and they were this year, 46 and 49. Both released only to have fun another day!
I'm rambling now, so I'll drop off...
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| I got the opportunity to watch first hand a guide and clients fishing from shore. I must say I really didn't know what to expect. This particular guide uses circle hooks when he shore sits. The lines were never left unattended or watched from a distance. I watched as the sucker lines were spread out kind of like a fan, with all the rods placed close to each other. Any time there was a pickup on the sucker, the guide and client would immediately move out over the fish to take care of business. Any other type of sucker rigging method would mean a swallowed sucker and more than likely a dead fish. The circle hook is the only feasable method of doing this and still being able to release fish without a hook in their gullet or stomach. This type of fishing allows for those who are not able to stand on a boat and pound all day. NOt everyone is young enough or in good enough shape to handle the rigors of casting and drifting all day in late fall weather. Personally I am too antsy to fish with that method, but it does catch fish and big ones too. I think that there is a right and a wrong way to shore sit. Watching rods rigged with traditional swallow rigs from a distance is not a safe practice for the fish and this guide knows that. I feel he does it the right way. Just my opinion. Matt [:bigsmile:] |
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| Shore fishing has taken quite a hit lately mostly because garbage politics. If the rod is legally attended and a quick strike or proper circle hook is used, I fail to see the difference between that method and dragging suckers below the boat while casting. In actual fact, there are far more violations of Wisconsin law dragging suckers while using the electric motor. Isn't it odd that no one complains much about the anglers dragging suckers with the electric motor in the no trolling portion of Wisconsin??
What IS the difference between legally soaking suckers in the boat and legally shore fishing? None. This is a legal, enjoyable, interesting way to fish. I have never fished Muskies that way, but have spent hundreds of hours after catfish shorefishing. I Europe, shorefishing for carp is VERY popular, the equipment expensive and sophisticated. I watched a guy catch two over 30 pounds from shore on Rock lake using fancy equipment and techniques. He treated those carp like babies, gently releasing them to fight again.
As long as the angler takes care to set the hook properly, land the fish quickly, and CPR it at their discretion the method is legal, very effective, and should not be such a hot topic. It is so only because of the running battle over on the Chip. Silly stuff, driven by who knows what, and a total waste of time and energy, too. If the folks howling about shore fishing spent half as much personal time and effort on a positive cause or perhaps just went fishing themselves, the world just might be a slightly better place.
EVERYTHING with muskie fishing is attitude and personal committment to the resource.
No one has the right to dictate what those paramaters might be for me, for Slamr, for Steve Hulbert, Chuck Altamore, Ty Sennet, Tony Rizzo or anyone else. The DNR does a fine job enforcing fish and game laws, and if one disagrees with an existing legal practice that agency is the place to get things changed. If the majority overrules, one needs to accept that we live in a democracy, and that is the way it is.
Sorry for the diatribe....
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| Sometimes I dont have access to a boat and i have to fish from shore. Ive had 3 fish over 37" so far from shore, casting lures. Ive only tryed sucker fishing once. Had one fish take it and i set the hook quickly and missed him. |
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| I know lots of guys that pitch baits in eddies and current breaks behind dams spring and fall. They might pitch the same spot 500 times, but they stick some fish. I guess, we often pitch a whole lake 500 times and come out empty handed.[;)] |
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| Usually Near the end of november right before ice up,I shore fish when the boats winterized for the year.I set out 2 rods with circle hooks on them sit in a lawn chair and wait.sometimes bring a panfish rod too make time go by.I have caught some ski's on a small 110 acre numbers lake just doing that method.Even fishing off the boat ramp area. |
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| about a third of my fish come from shore and wading throughout the season. Artificials only. On many lakes, this is the only way to go.[:bigsmile:] |
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