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| Really nice fish, congrats. and a better job keeping her alive. In all cases, it's our job and responsibility to do whatever it takes to keep these fish alive.
Nicely done. Relax Barn. |
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Location: The desert | dougj - 11/15/2011 3:12 PM
Ontario has a regulation that speciifally allows you to continue fishing after you have your limit. This from the 2011 Ontario Regs. Doug Johnson Generally, daily catch limits include all fish that are retained for any period of time and not immediately released. Anglers fishing from a boat may now catch, hold, and selectively live release more walleye, northern pike, largemouth or smallmouth bass than the daily limit, provided: (a) the fish are held in a livewell with a mechanical aerator operating at all times, (see Anglers Guide, page 8, for livewell requirements) (b) the fish comply with any applicable size limits, (c) the Sport or Conservation Fishing Licence daily catch and retain limits for walleye or northern pike are not exceeded at any one time, (d) no more than six largemouth or smallmouth bass (or any combination) caught under a Sport Fishing Licence are retained at any one time, and (e) the Conservation Fishing Licence catch and retain limits for largemouth and smallmouth bass (or any combination) are not exceeded at any one time. Anglers are reminded to closely monitor the condition of fish held in a livewell. Only fish that are in such a condition that they will survive may be released (see Tips on Live Release of Fish, page 10). Releasing a fish that will not survive and allowing the flesh of that fish to be wasted is an offence. Any fish not live-released are part of your daily catch and retain limit.
Thanks for posting Doug. That law is pretty well written, and I think it could be easily adopted in WI and MN. I only see one problem with the rule. If a guy catches a musky and it is struggling, puts it in the livewell with the aerator running to revive, then has the fortune to catch another but it swallows a bulldog and injures its gills and is now also struggling. Now say the original livewell fish doesn't pull through. Assuming the bag limit is 1, the guy now has two fish that won't survive......
A scenario that isn't likely to happen often, but the potential is there. A simple addition to the law saying that muskies must be released alive from livewell prior to returning to fishing would solve this issue. |
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Location: Warroad, Mn | PP: I believe this regulation was written to mostly cover Bass and Walleye tournaments. I'm not sure about all states that Bass and Walleye tournaments are run, but it seems to be a very common practice to "cull" even though you have your limit, and continue fishing. I know this is done in Minnesota, and no doubt in Wisconsin, as well as every state that I've seen Bass and Walleye tournaments run. No doubt the CO's are aware of the money that these tourneys produce, as well as the $ that muskie fishermen bring to the areas, and aren't real worried about you having a muskie in the livewell for revival proposes. I doubt that any muskie fisherman alive would have two muskies in his live well at the same time! Doug Johnson
Edited by dougj 11/15/2011 5:01 PM
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Location: The desert | dougj - 11/15/2011 3:59 PM
PP: I believe this regulation was written to mostly cover Bass and Walleye tournaments. I'm not sure about all states that Bass and Walleye tournaments are run, but it seems to be a very common practice to "cull" even though you have your limit, and continue fishing. I know this is done in Minnesota, and no doubt in Wisconsin, as well as every state that I've seen Bass and Walleye tournaments run. No doubt the CO's are aware of the money that these tourneys produce, as well as the $ that muskie fishermen bring to the areas, and aren't real worried about you having a muskie in the livewell for revival proposes. I doubt that any muskie fisherman alive would have two muskies in his live well at the same time! Doug Johnson
You are right, the likelihood is unlikely. However, the original poster had his musky in his possession for around 1 hour and 20 minutes. The way the Ontario law is written, if someone put a struggling fish in the running livewell then continued on fishing while waiting for the fish to hopefully revive, it is plausible that someone could catch another musky within an hour and twenty minutes. I've caught more than one fish in less than that amount of time, and as we've established in this thread I suck at musky fishing! If that fish gets hooked bad and isn't going to survive and the fish in the livewell expires.......Now you are over your bag limit.
Again, an unlikely scenario, I realize, but it isn't an impossible scenario. Someone who isn't well versed in musky fishing could potentially get pinched if he doesn't fully understand the law. |
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| Doug, culling is illegal in Wisconsin, that is probably why we don't get a lot of big time bass tournaments.
Once a fish is put in your livewell it is considered a kept fish in Wisconsin. It made for interesting strategies for the pros when ESPN had a tournament in Madison a few years ago. |
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Location: Hayward WI | Actually, culling is now legal for DNR permitted bass tourneys as of this summer. Only applies to bass though.
http://dnr.wi.gov/news/DNRNews_article_Lookup.asp?id=1808
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The original poster didn't say anything about fishing while the fish was in the live well. What do you think he did, just plop her in there and shut the top and kept fishing in that heavy wind? Always someone that doesn't really fish that has to criticize.
Oh, I know, what if a muskie jumped in the boat while it was in the live well, hit the motor and died. Man, he would be in trouble then!!
What a beast Jake but next time you should go to the landing to revive a fish and watch out for jumping muskies!! |
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