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Message Subject: Shimano Trinidad
Killerbug
Posted 7/19/2011 1:53 PM (#507917)
Subject: Shimano Trinidad





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Location: Denmark
I have decided to get a Trinidad or a Saltiga for pounders, but I am not sure what size to chose?. Had a Trinidad 12 in the hand the other day, it seems to be big enough, but I have no practical experience with these kind of reels.
RStien321
Posted 7/19/2011 6:03 PM (#507972 - in reply to #507917)
Subject: RE: Shimano Trinidad




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Make sure to take line capacity into account. It takes a decent size reel to have a full spool of 100lb braid (assuming that's the size of line you're looking to throw pounders on). I would err on the side of a 14 or 16N... and if you're not looking to throw bucktails, don't rule out a 400TE or 700TE. Just my $0.02
5th lake Brad
Posted 7/19/2011 6:22 PM (#507977 - in reply to #507917)
Subject: RE: Shimano Trinidad





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Location: Gilberts IL/Rhinelander WI
I have the 16n, and it's an awesome reel for pounders. Especially if you do the jerk-reel-jerk-reel retrieve. Picks up slack line like no other. Most people fill the spool up only 75% so the line pick-up is diminished, something to take into consideration. I hated the reel for the first few days I had it, but after getting used to it , I love it. Non level wind on the trinidad is not an issue, at all. Taking it easy on the cast, and thumbing the spool , makes it work great. Casts about 6' shorter than my te. Good luck to you!
Fishboy19
Posted 7/20/2011 12:28 AM (#508048 - in reply to #507917)
Subject: RE: Shimano Trinidad





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I only use it for bucktail applications. High resistance type lures. It takes some getting used to without the level wind and there expensive. Make sure you want it. Lucanas 400LJV may be a better option at that price for pounders.
Killerbug
Posted 7/20/2011 2:56 PM (#508132 - in reply to #507917)
Subject: RE: Shimano Trinidad





Posts: 339


Location: Denmark
"the jerk-reel-jerk-reel retrieve." is the way I prefer to fish my rubber;), but i think the 14 is big enough as I a using 65-80lbs braid???, or am I wrong?.

Thanks everybody for your feedbacks, much appreciated.
PIKEMASTER
Posted 7/20/2011 6:42 PM (#508161 - in reply to #507917)
Subject: RE: Shimano Trinidad





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
Killerbug - 7/19/2011 1:53 PM

I have decided to get a Trinidad or a Saltiga for pounders, but I am not sure what size to chose?. Had a Trinidad 12 in the hand the other day, it seems to be big enough, but I have no practical experience with these kind of reels.


Killerburg: Have U ever used a reel with no levelwind ???????
If U are going to use this reel for big Plastic, U should look at the CALCUTTA 700TE, the 700TE would be your best reel for Big Plastic. A reel with no level wind needs a bait that will has high resistance to keep the line tight on the spool.
Tim Schmitz
Posted 7/21/2011 5:51 AM (#508202 - in reply to #507917)
Subject: Re: Shimano Trinidad




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Location: MN
Not true PM. I've been using a 16dc Trinidad for big rubber for the last 2years and prefer it to my 700te. It's the absolute best rubber reel made and it takes about 5hrs to figure out the non level wind. I think the 14 might also work well being that it has a wider spool.
PIKEMASTER
Posted 7/21/2011 6:47 AM (#508204 - in reply to #508202)
Subject: Re: Shimano Trinidad





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
Tim Schmitz - 7/21/2011 5:51 AM

Not true PM. I've been using a 16dc Trinidad for big rubber for the last 2years and prefer it to my 700te. It's the absolute best rubber reel made and it takes about 5hrs to figure out the non level wind. I think the 14 might also work well being that it has a wider spool.


For me or U but for someone that has never casted a non-levelwind reel ??????
If he can master it, but what if he can't ?????????
Plus your DC has a spool brake the new 16NA has no spool braking just a cast control knob.
Tim Schmitz
Posted 7/21/2011 7:01 AM (#508207 - in reply to #508204)
Subject: Re: Shimano Trinidad




Posts: 540


Location: MN
That's true killer might actuly like a 700b better than the 700te you'll get better line pick up with the b (31") compared to the te (26") but if he could master a Trinidad it's a deadly reel for rubber.
PIKEMASTER
Posted 7/21/2011 7:08 AM (#508208 - in reply to #508207)
Subject: Re: Shimano Trinidad





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
Tim Schmitz - 7/21/2011 7:01 AM

That's true killer might actuly like a 700b better than the 700te you'll get better line pick up with the b (31") compared to the te (26") but if he could master a Trinidad it's a deadly reel for rubber.


Tim hate to call U out but the 700TE has 31" and the 700B has 28"
Tim Schmitz
Posted 7/21/2011 8:38 AM (#508221 - in reply to #507917)
Subject: Re: Shimano Trinidad




Posts: 540


Location: MN
Dooh!! I thought it was the other way around? Well you learn something new every day.
Killerbug
Posted 7/21/2011 2:20 PM (#508285 - in reply to #508161)
Subject: RE: Shimano Trinidad





Posts: 339


Location: Denmark
PIKEMASTER - 7/20/2011 6:42 PM

Killerburg: Have U ever used a reel with no levelwind ???????
If U are going to use this reel for big Plastic, U should look at the CALCUTTA 700TE, the 700TE would be your best reel for Big Plastic. A reel with no level wind needs a bait that will has high resistance to keep the line tight on the spool.


I used to cast a Penn sea boy as a child, so I guess the Trinidad will be a step up from that. I will need the Trinidad not only for pounders, but also for jigging cod.

Actually many baitcasters for surf casting comes without levelvind, and after a few casts you will learn to use your fingers as levelvind.

And true the new Trinidad has no centrifugal brake, but am looking for the older golden Trinidad, probably a 16 N. So if anyone know where to get it cheap, pl drop me a line.
RStien321
Posted 7/22/2011 8:03 AM (#508369 - in reply to #508204)
Subject: Re: Shimano Trinidad




Posts: 127


Plus your DC has a spool brake the new 16NA has no spool braking just a cast control knob.


Even with no spool break, the 16NA is a very easy reel to cast. Even light, non-aerodynamic lures like a double showgirl are no problem (using an XH predator to boot).
Mr Musky
Posted 7/22/2011 8:41 PM (#508477 - in reply to #507917)
Subject: Re: Shimano Trinidad





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Not trying to hyjack the post here, only trying to tie in with it and offer a browder horizon. What is the secret to working rubber with a a T dad? I'd assume always keeping your line tight after your pull until you reach back up with the bait? But jerking from the side wouldnt it load up on one side? I use a 700B for big rubber and a 700 TE for big blades. I measured 1 full revolution of the handle and I got 29.75" on a full spool of 100 lb Powerpro on my 700 TE. I HATE the short handle on the 700B, has anybody bought the aftermarket powerhandle on E bay and liked it for the 700B????. I absolutley love the handle on the 700 TE and it has that extra slot to "go big" as I call it, has anybody ever tried thatl, i'd assume that increases the speed even more? BTW the handles are not interchangable from the TE to the B so that was out of the question.
5th lake Brad
Posted 7/22/2011 9:48 PM (#508496 - in reply to #508477)
Subject: Re: Shimano Trinidad





Posts: 537


Location: Gilberts IL/Rhinelander WI
I have the 16n and find bucktails more finnicky than rubber. I have to point my rod a little to the left of the bucktails as i reel them in. Otherwise line builds up on one side and then falls back on to the center of the spool, resulting in a split second of slack line followed by the resistance of the bucktail. Which feels like a fish until I set the hook on nothing.
As far as the big rubber, as stated, keeping the line fairly tight is all I really do. Sweeping the rod to the side and then reeling in seems to let the line lay down fairly evenly. Maybe I'm just lucky or inadvertently doing something right for a change.

Should I be thumbing the spool as I jerk pounders on a trinidad?
Thanks, Brad
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