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| Just wondering if you all toss your brushes after one use or clean them after using E-tex.
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Location: holland | I stop them after use in the deep freeze, wrapped up in plastic foil.
You can keep the brushes good for weeks.
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| I have used the small foam brushes and just tossed after each use. Cheap when bought in multiples. |
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Location: Eden Prairie & Pine Island | I use cheap wide flux brushes and just pitch them after use. |
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Location: Freedom, WI | What Gman says. They are called acid brushes (horse hair) and I buy them from Grainger in 50 count. Hardware stores or automotive stores would have them also. |
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Location: Oregon | I have used the disposable version for a long time but I'm going to try the freezer trick as sybe suggested, sounds like a good idea!! 
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Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan! | cheap ones & pitch them. There is fun in seeing where they stick & dry in the shop when the trash was missed! |
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Location: South-Central PA | Just use epoxy brush cleaner like rod builders use. I have brushes that I use for months straight. Here's my method: When I want to use a brush, I get it out of the cleaner, dry it with a paper towel and use it to apply epoxy. When I'm done with it, I use a paper towel to remove all of the excess epoxy and drop it back in the cleaner for storage. Simple as that!
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Location: MN | I learned to use acid brushes from Fatgingers tutorial on tackleunderground.com: "I prefer use acid brushes for applying the epoxy. I crimp the tip near the bristles with a pair of pliers to lock down the bristles and fan the brush to remove loose bristles and dust. I do not clean the acid brushes. I toss them when I'm done, because for the cost (about sixteen cents if you buy them in bulk), I don't have to repeatedly expose myself to the toxic solvents required to clean any type of epoxy. For me at least, it is not worth the health hazard, which you will repeatedly encounter if you make baits in any quantity at all...say 50 baits a year times only two coats per bait...you are inhaling highly toxic chemicals 100 times per year...unless you wear a mask and how much trouble is that?" |
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Location: Oregon | A little off topic but I hope everyone is wearing a respirator, etex is nasty stuff! You can buy a respirator for $25, what's your health worth? Wear gloves and wear a respirator. If you have good ventilation in your drying area all the better.
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| RiverMan - 4/7/2011 8:39 PM
A little off topic but I hope everyone is wearing a respirator, etex is nasty stuff! You can buy a respirator for $25, what's your health worth? Wear gloves and wear a respirator. If you have good ventilation in your drying area all the better.
Jed
Really? I've never noticed. It hardly has a smell. I think paint fumes are 10x worse than e-tex. |
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| What do yu mean by crimmp the tip of the brush ? I hate when I got a strand of the brush on my baits |
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| The acid brushes have an area near the bristles that is crimped to hold the hair inside the metal tubing. I simply crimp it down tighter. To do so I use a vice grips to pinch the tip of the metal in the area that holds the bristles.
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| I get mine at harbor freight. |
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Location: Freedom, WI | It is not as much what you smell but what you do not (think carbon monoxide). What I use has a lot less fumes than E Tex and I still wear a mask and a vent fan. Once it sets up the fumes should be done. Those little bubbles that you need a torch to make go away on E Tex that is chemicals. It is mostly long term affects to the nervous system. Oil based paint does have more smell (some have cyanide) and some waterbased but none of it is good for you. If you can not smell it maybe it has already affected you. |
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Location: Pigeon Forge TN. | I used the acid brushes and crimped them just like fat fingers and also threw mine away after a single use. They are cheap and do a good job. I have done hundreds and hundreds of lures that way.
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Location: Land of the Musky | I do not use brushed for epoxy. I use a big teflon coated cookie pan and latex gloves. Mix up about 500ml to 1L of epoxy per batch and role the baits in the epoxy and smear it around with my gloves and then wipe off a good amount, hit it with a torch to get the bubbles off and spin for the night. Repeat a few times and walla, perfect! Let teh epoxy setup for the final time in the pan and smack it on the back and a big sheet of epoxy comes off and the pan is good as new. |
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Location: South-Central PA | h2os2t - 4/14/2011 9:32 PM
It is not as much what you smell but what you do not (think carbon monoxide). What I use has a lot less fumes than E Tex and I still wear a mask and a vent fan. Once it sets up the fumes should be done. Those little bubbles that you need a torch to make go away on E Tex that is chemicals. It is mostly long term affects to the nervous system. Oil based paint does have more smell (some have cyanide) and some waterbased but none of it is good for you. If you can not smell it maybe it has already affected you.
Actually I'm pretty sure those are just air bubbles from mixing the epoxy. If it was some kind of 'chemical gas' it would keep bubbling after you put it on the lure. The bubbles only appear from mixing, not the release of a 'chemical'. If you mix the epoxy and let it sit, you'll notice that the bubbles will settle and disappear, the exact opposite of what would happen if the mixing of the epoxy was producing a 'chemical'.
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Location: Freedom, WI | MSDS for E Tex
http://www.eti-usa.com/MSDS/MSDS%20PDF/Envirotex%20Lite/Envirotex%2...
http://www.eti-usa.com/MSDS/MSDS%20PDF/Envirotex%20Lite/Envirotex%2... |
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| I would think any epoxy would have a similar MSDS. The 5 minute stuff I use for screw eyes smells nasty - much worse than e-tex. Although I'm sure prolonged exposure is not good for you, you may be taking it to the extreme. Then again if you're making enough baits that you are using e-tex on a daily basis it would probably be a good idea to get a filtering respirator. The MSDS also mentions use of an SCBA if ventilation is inadequate. I think for that kind of exposure, you'd have to be clearcoating your basement walls and floor.
For a guy like me that only makes 25-30 lures a year (only during the winter) I believe it is unnecessary.
Although, I applaud you in your efforts to stay safe. Certainly nothing wrong with that.
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| This may be a dumb question but if u can put the brushes in the freezer can u put left over in the cup in the freezer to make it last as well? |
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Location: Freedom, WI | Yes, but multiple times can be a problem. |
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