Muskie Discussion Forums

Forums | Calendars | Albums | Quotes | Language | Blogs Search | Statistics | User Listing
You are logged in as a guest. ( logon | register )
Moderators: Slamr

View previous thread :: View next thread
Jump to page : 1
Now viewing page 1 [30 messages per page]

Muskie Fishing -> Muskie Boats and Motors -> Shallow water anchor/power pole options?
 
Reply New post
Message Subject: Shallow water anchor/power pole options?
WallyGator12000
Posted 3/3/2011 3:09 PM (#484928)
Subject: Shallow water anchor/power pole options?




Posts: 114


Thinking about adding a shallow water anchor/power pole to my Ranger 617. While searching for options I came across this manual style- http://www.wanganchor.com/. I must admit it is a little appealing because of the price point on the electronic power poles. Anyone used anything like it? Or anyone care to give a review of their favorite power pole for that matter?

I think the application of a shallow water anchor to windblown structure has to be tremendous, especially those times your trolling motor just can't hold position right and you know more than one fish could be in the area, preventing a drift.

Any opinions/insight are appreciated. Esoxfly, I know you are a power pole afficianado, care to chime in?
firstsixfeet
Posted 3/3/2011 3:48 PM (#484934 - in reply to #484928)
Subject: Re: Shallow water anchor/power pole options?




Posts: 2361


Yup, hold on to your wang!
LonLB
Posted 3/3/2011 3:52 PM (#484935 - in reply to #484928)
Subject: Re: Shallow water anchor/power pole options?




Posts: 158


There is another company selling manual anchors.

The design is much cleaner than that one too. I'll have to find the link.

I'm going to install one. Maybe not this spring but in the future. On their site they show BIG boats tied up to them, with zero problems.
LonLB
Posted 3/3/2011 3:54 PM (#484936 - in reply to #484928)
Subject: Re: Shallow water anchor/power pole options?




Posts: 158


Here ya go.

http://www.stickitanchorpins.com/brake.html



You might not have the same bragging rights as the guys with a power pole, but bragging rights aren't going to be paying for gas when it's $4/gallon.
Top H2O
Posted 3/3/2011 3:55 PM (#484937 - in reply to #484935)
Subject: Re: Shallow water anchor/power pole options?




Posts: 4080


Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion
I'd like to get the longest Wang they have ! Cool Idea.

Jerome
esoxfly
Posted 3/3/2011 10:03 PM (#485011 - in reply to #484928)
Subject: RE: Shallow water anchor/power pole options?





Posts: 1663


Location: Kodiak, AK
I love it, or should I saw now, "them." I've got another one in the garage that I'm installing. It's a great tool. I use it just as much for fishing as do convenience. Not sure what you'd like to know or hear me say other than I like it, and consider it invaluable in my fishing. I've had one the past two years, and like I say, I'm installing a second one so I don't swing downwind/downcurrent when I put them down.

As for the Wang, they're one of the manual or non-motorized anchors out there and are very common in the salt. They really shine on ultralight boats and microskiff where the 34 lbs of a PP is actually enough to change the draft of a boat. I know a couple of guys that have them, and they work, but the convenience and usability of the PP is unmatched.

Then there's new MinnKota Talon. They're new to the market and are showing up at dealers. I'm not sure what to make of it yet. I'm a MK guy, and think they make a good product, but the Talon is a bit too electronic and perhaps overly complex and finicky for me. Just as an example, (as I've been told) if the pole is not perfectly straight while deployed and you try to pull it up, it'll give you an alarm and won't come up until you get the pole straight. It's designed that way. The PP is just a hydraulic pump and goes up or down; no modes, no alarms.

As for "bragging rights," not sure how that applies to gas prices, but I use the PP all the time and they've helped catch me fish via better boat control. Gas could be $10/gallon and I'd still have my PP's installed and paid for. People do ask me, "why not just use an anchor..." To me, that's like, "why not just use oars," instead of a trolling motor. Yeah, I could anchor, but the ability to stop on a dime at the touch of a remote is what it does for me.

Here's a pic of my new (port) PP rough hung on the boat to make sure it sits along the other one, and not higher or lower, etc. (That's why there's only two bolts, and no hydaulie lines to it.)

Edited by esoxfly 3/3/2011 10:17 PM



Zoom - | Zoom 100% | Zoom + | Expand / Contract | Open New window
Click to expand / contract the width of this image
(PPx2.jpg)



Attachments
----------------
Attachments PPx2.jpg (133KB - 561 downloads)
WallyGator12000
Posted 3/3/2011 10:41 PM (#485019 - in reply to #485011)
Subject: RE: Shallow water anchor/power pole options?




Posts: 114


Esoxfly, I appreciate the perspective. What I'm debating is really the cost factor, whether the price tag on the talon or power poles are justified when compared to the manual options like the Wang or the Brake. Does the power pole assembly get in the way for an angler fishing the back deck? I can see the benefit of fast deployment using the remote, versus having to manually anchor, especially in high wind/strong current conditions.
esoxfly
Posted 3/3/2011 10:55 PM (#485020 - in reply to #484928)
Subject: RE: Shallow water anchor/power pole options?





Posts: 1663


Location: Kodiak, AK
I've never had an angler in the back complain. But if one did, you could lower it enough to be out of the way. The Talon is of a different design, so you'd not be able to do that. But like I say, they're not in the way.

It comes down to how often you'll use it. I use it all the time, so for me, they're very much worth it. I find new uses for mine all the time. I'll use them when I come up on a spot and I have my routine for getting ready- put the dog in the water, get the rods out, get the trolling motor RAM mount undone, unstow the net, get the dog back in the boat, etc. I PP down and don't start my drift until I'm ready. I use it at the boat ramp sometimes instead of tying up; especially in the fall when the docks are out. I beach it and PP down and she's there to stay. I use it if I'm going to stop and eat lunch. I use it in high wind or current when I want to really disect a spot... On and on.... I love them and for me and my fishing, it's worth it all the way.


Zoom - | Zoom 100% | Zoom + | Expand / Contract | Open New window
Click to expand / contract the width of this image
(!cid_42AE01A2-B89A-43BB-AD72-C9A56EB22AE9.jpg)



Attachments
----------------
Attachments !cid_42AE01A2-B89A-43BB-AD72-C9A56EB22AE9.jpg (124KB - 233 downloads)
LonLB
Posted 3/4/2011 7:52 AM (#485050 - in reply to #485011)
Subject: RE: Shallow water anchor/power pole options?




Posts: 158


esoxfly - 3/3/2011 11:03 PM


As for "bragging rights," not sure how that applies to gas prices, but I use the PP all the time and they've helped catch me fish via better boat control. Gas could be $10/gallon and I'd still have my PP's installed and paid for.



My point was that if you don't have one, already bought and paid for, the manual one would accomplish the same thing, and you would have $1,000 more money in your pocket that could go towards gas to actually go fishing.

I'd rather be able to fish, and not have a power pole then stare at my boat in the garage with a powerpole, but not be able to afford the gas to go fishing.


Then again, some of you can afford both.
MRichardson
Posted 3/4/2011 9:54 AM (#485066 - in reply to #484928)
Subject: RE: Shallow water anchor/power pole options?





Wow thanks for sharing! I didn’t know a manual option was available. I can totally see the benefits of the power pole type system, but I can’t justify one on my old Sylvan. An executive decision has been made and the “Brake” system will be installed this year. Heck I’d pay $140 bucks just to have someone pull my anchor for me all year… I’ll put the hinge piece on my transom, but love the versatility of using a rope and “pinning” the bow.

Edited by MRichardson 3/4/2011 10:01 AM
esoxfly
Posted 3/4/2011 10:18 AM (#485068 - in reply to #484928)
Subject: Re: Shallow water anchor/power pole options?





Posts: 1663


Location: Kodiak, AK
Here's one a guy made himself-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZOwRFn1kyE

With a bit of technical know-how and the use of a basic machine shop, there's alot you can do.
MRichardson
Posted 3/4/2011 10:41 AM (#485071 - in reply to #484928)
Subject: RE: Shallow water anchor/power pole options?





Maybe I’m a bit overzealous…
When using a bracket, how well do you think the manual ones hold in a chop?
esoxfly
Posted 3/4/2011 12:16 PM (#485090 - in reply to #484928)
Subject: Re: Shallow water anchor/power pole options?





Posts: 1663


Location: Kodiak, AK
There's different types, but most are made to "float" or slide up and down on the pole, on the bracket so you don't come off the bottom, or slam back down onto it. Even with a PP and a Wave Pak, you're limited to 2-3' of vertical movement before you lose bottom. But PP'ing in 3' "chop" really isn't fun or practical.
MRichardson
Posted 3/4/2011 1:14 PM (#485104 - in reply to #485090)
Subject: Re: Shallow water anchor/power pole options?





Well that’s good then, if there is a good clearance between the pole and the bracket, and the surfaces slide together nicely it should work. I’ll tell my girlfriend we need to keep some KY in the boat now…
esoxfly
Posted 3/4/2011 4:27 PM (#485138 - in reply to #484928)
Subject: Re: Shallow water anchor/power pole options?





Posts: 1663


Location: Kodiak, AK
Yeah, they work well. Like I said above, it comes down to how much you use it. If it's not often, or a PP is more than you need, the Wangs and other manual anchors work great. But if you're going to be anchoring every 30' down a drift, or fish shallow water alot, for me at least, the PP's are worth it and they do earn their keep.
Jump to page : 1
Now viewing page 1 [30 messages per page]
Reply New post
Jump to forum :
Search this forum
Printer friendly version
E-mail a link to this thread

(Delete all cookies set by this site)