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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | 'I think in order to get an accurate assessment of whether or not something works, we need to listen people who do not get paid to use them or dont benefit monetarily from their use.'
I got a couple baits from Cady and from Luke. I caught ALOT of muskies on them, and wasn't bashful about telling folks, but never made a dime. I fail to see why I shouldn't tell people a lure works really well...is it supposed to be comunicated through a secret handshake? |
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| Steve, Sorry, I didnt mean to imply you did that at all. And I have no doubt those lures work.
Being truthful though, I bought the double cowgirl 90% because of the name 10% of what I heard. I thought (sickly minded) that if I purchased a double cowgirl and used it, I could then pick up chicks! Meaning big fat female muskies. 
I use it every time out, but havent had much luck with it. Still love to hear the clank of the blades as they fly through the air.
Like others have said, we all have our favorites and I am sure the reason I have success with CJ's is because of 2 factors, I fish them a LOT and I know how to use them to trigger fish. If I put the time in with other lures I am sure I would have the results with them as well, but I have ADD and I lose interest quickly so I go back to what I know works.
I still drop nearly $200 on new lures every year. |
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| I like Steve's idea for a secret handshake. I had a secret handshake when I was in a college fraternity but I have forgotten it. I'm also pretty sure that if I remembered it, and showed up at a fraternity house these days, at my age....using it would likely result in a call to the police rather than gaining entrance to a Toga party. Anyway, I think we should elect a committee, then the committee should choose the handshake, password and answer to the password. Then if somebody wants to tell you what they think, they first tell you the password. If you give the correct answer, then you do the handshake. Then you judge whether the handshake seems to have been "manly" or sort of "not-so-manly." If the handshake is manly, then you look at his clothes, his hat, and (if possible) his boat to see if he seems to buy the same crap that you buy. If all that checks out, it is OK for him to give his opinion....if not, he should shut up! I think that'll stop these sorts of debates. Marty |
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Location: Maplewood, MN | DCG's are a staple in my boat but this season I have been more effective throwing homemade double bladed bucktails. Specifically non-flashabou and non-colorado bladed creations. Still am using mag sized blades though. I wanted to throw something a bit different that cowgirls to hopefully have my presentation a bit different from the masses. Still have action and confidence with the girls, just gaining confidence in my own lures. In my mind, its always great to add to your list of confidence baits |
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Location: Probably Minnesota that time... | Hoop,
We've were talking about this just the other night. You know first hand how I like my tools(lures) you know how I cannot help but to be switching baits "quite frequently". I was a little "SLOW" to come around to these things(2008) I actually started with the JR.mag 8's. I don't get out that often, 2-4 times a month. Well after sticking a 47.5" in a lake where I had about a dozen muskies tied at 39.5" for my biggest on that particular lake. Also losing one that was 4 foot +, the next year I bought "7-9" DCG 10's on our trip to Miltona. I realize the fish here in MN are bigger and more prevalent now than when I started fishing for these things in the early 90's, and I am more seasoned etc. It doesn't matter, in my mind it is CLEAR. These things are kind of attractive to big muskies. Things a bit slower, maybe, maybe not ...They are STILL working! Tell me that story about Josh and the shad rap again! (51"from the Dead Sea) howd that new moon last Sept. treat you...5$ JUNK! Everything will catch fish if you get it wet long enough at the right time. What bait would you bet on? As a frequent bait changer I see the results. If I was really smart, I would stop all that business. BUT..............................
Just another bait? GET "ROLLED".............(get it?) 
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Location: New Berlin,Wisconsin,53151 | As somone who has purchased more idile baits in my plano than anyone else, I still enjoy the new phase of "hot" baits. Where else would you rather spend your money than on a bait that someone said was the only thing catching fish that year. So I agree with most of the posts that say this is a trend in baits and the next craze will bring more money from my wallet because you just can't by one bait. Just look at how many of us have 10 DDG's, 5 Weagles, numerous spinner baits and how many crank baits, glide baits, rubber in all colors. Hey just think of it as a way to spend those overtime dollars or if you quit smoking all the money saved from not poisoning yourself and go out and buy, buy, buy. And Marty I'll skip the secret hand shake and just ask you what there hitting on, we all seem to be willing to give information when asked.
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| I fell into the lure trap like many others here. An old friend talked endlessly about the fish he caught on Phantoms. I bought at least 15. When the dawg craze hit, I bought 20 of them. I lost count of how many Weagles I had. Cady Weagles, Mojo Weagles, Black/White Head Weagles, final 4 Weagles... Weagles that sank, Weagles that were painted with what looked like Krylon... Double 10's? At least two dozen. After a few years of stupidity, and thousands of dollars, I finally started to see a trend forming:
The more time I spent throwing this or that lure, the more fish I caught on them. But then even some of the "good" ones seemed worthless at times. And then, something else started to take shape; little "revelations" on the water...
A phantom IS a great lure. But you may not want to waste time throwing it when fish are actively chasing bucktails.
A Weagle IS a great lure. But there is a time and a place for a walk the dog surface lure.
You can catch fish burning a #5 Mepps, slow rolling a spinnerbait, working a bulldawg, or a Suick... But you don't want to just randomly do any of those any time any season under any conditions...
Gradually, over several years, I realized something else: A great lure is a great lure because of what it does, and where in the water column it does it. You don't need 20 of them. A bright one and a dark one will do. Maybe 4 colors if you REALLY want to get extravagant.
Someone once told me that you could fish anywhere at any time and catch plenty of fish if all you had was a dozen lures. 300+ lures later I realized that he was right.
These days, I buy lures that do something the lures I have don't. Or I buy lures because the one I have is only good for another fish or two. Sometimes I even buy lures in case the one I have gets lost or wrecked.
So does that mean a cowgirl is a great lure? I think you're missing a lot of opportunities if you don't have a couple. I also thing you're missing a lot of opportunities if you throw that religiously even when you aren't seeing fish. Reminds me of something a mechanic told me years ago, as he was leaning on his rollaway tool box...
"Any idiot can turn a wrench. That doesn't make him a mechanic. Show me a guy with one of these who has had to use everything in it, and has worn out most of it at one time or another. THAT'S a mechanic."
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Location: Northern Wisconsin | agree with ^ |
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Location: Oregon | Some good comments here, spinners of any size and shape catch fish (of many species) and have done so for a hundred years. Spinners create a lot of vibration and flash and unlike many other lures can be used effectively by almost anyone. It is no surprise that cowgirls catch fish.
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| I throw Mag Muskie lures. They come in single and double blade. They work pretty good. |
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Location: Bemidji, MN | Ryan_Cotter - 9/7/2010 2:51 PM
"IF it werent for musky mayhem and the dcg there wouldnt have ever been any other dual bladed bucktails anyway.
You are very much mistaken. You must be new to musky fishing to beleive this. There have been many companies to produce double bladed baits in the past. Slammer tails, Musky Ckickens, Kenkatch, just to name a few. As far as number 10 blades, you can ask Dick Moore how many of us were ordering them before Musky Mahem was even thought of. I won't deny that they are good baits in the right situations, but I will also not deny that they are VERY good at marketing those baits.
I have to say that I am jealous of the success that musky mayhem has had. I wish my little baits would get so much attention, but I am happy with knowing that the people who use them ask for more because they work. Also, if I had to make that many baits, when would I get to fish!?
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Location: Land of the Musky | I have heard it from many more than a few people that the double #10 tail was "invented" in 1983 by a guy named Brian but he made his with hair skirts. Soon after that someone (maybe Brian or a buddy) used that old xmas tree tinsel on a few. IMO what Musky Mayhem did very good at was marketing. They brought the double #10 into the lime light and really got it marketed well. That 50 club thing they did a few years ago really pushed that lure to the top. Funny that many companies (including me)n get crap over makign double 10s now and we are "copying" MM. Shows how good they did at marketing the DCG. Good job by them! I love marketing lessons like this. |
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Location: Smith Creek | Brian would be Brian Long, inventer of the BL Whoppertail and legendary Turtle Flambeau Flowage guide. He built it cause he wanted to catch fish, not make money (not that there's anything wrong with that) |
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Location: Muskegon Michigan | Hmmm??? They were the first double 10. That,s true. They don,t last a day on Lake St. Clair trolled so they are not the best built in my book. In the Cowgirls defense however they were not designed for speed trolling . Spanky baits have a special nylon bushing that keeps the clevis from being eaten up by the first bead. No one however can argue the success of the Cowgirl casting. I have thrown them and thrown them here in Michigan with zero success. Ive caught dozens of fish on Weagles and few on Dawgs. I have few Spanky baits and have got a couple of big fish on them trolling. We own a dozen Double 8 Shumway Flashers and we have caught tons of fish on them. To me I have to say just another tool in the box. Its like Ford ,Chevy and Dodge they all win a race now and then. Mike |
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