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| i bought a new 8" black weagle and for 3 or 4 casts it works beautifully but then it starts to dive underwater for some reason and i cant figure out why. when you twitch it it will dive underwater and if you pause it it comes back up. is it something wrong with the lure or am i working it wrong? |
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Location: Iowa | i have a couple of molo weagles and one works great all day long and the other does the same thing you describe. The one that acts up I've had for a while now but finally decided to use it on my last trip. Threw it a few casts and worked fine. About five or six casts into using it, it started acting up.
I hope somebody has a little input with this. I really liked the victorias pickle color on that one.
Jeremy |
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Location: Ohio | It's soaking up water and that changes the weight causing it to dive. |
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Location: Indiana | Weagles like slack line. Try feeding some line to it before snapping it. Also, don't try to force it to move too quickly, the weagle shines in the death march. |
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| dont have any weagel
but my satisfers like lots of slack line to stay at the top
dosnt matter if it fast or slow |
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| Your most likely are working the bait too fast or not using enough slack. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | weagle = over-rated ... just another bait :0) |
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| Try a solid wire leader with NO swivel. Less weight, and it will most likely not dive as much. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | That's pretty funny, Sled... |
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Location: Iowa | I'm pretty sure it's not working it too fast and I know all about the whole slack line thing. I have a half dozen of the cady weagles. Those baits needed the special attention to speed and slack line.
I decided to get my scale out tonight. I weighed both of mojo weagles tonight and one weighs 4 oz and the other weighs 5.7oz. Did luke start weighting the weagles different from when he started and when he sold out? One of the weagles I bought back in 2006, which is the one works great and weighs 4.0 oz. The other I bought i think about a year and half ago off of muskie first when Luke was selling them and that weighs 5.7 oz and dives like a madman.
Then just for kicks I weigh a couple cady weagles and they both weighed 4.7 oz and a mojo wabull weighs about 6.4 oz.
About the only conclusion I have so far is the blank got messed up when it was made. I guess I wouldn't think it became water logged. The paint and sealer coat have hardly any nicks in them and never has been used up until three weeks ago.
Anybody else have any other ideas?
Looks like a might have to put a weight insert in it and use it as a wabull.
Jeremy
Edited by jwelch 8/8/2010 11:21 PM
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| Don't be disappointed. I have one that i bought that even says "Floater" and it sinks. Very inconsistent i would imagine its the wood they use (maple).
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Location: Land of the Musky | FYI-I think the Cady Weagles used to weight between 5.3 and 5.8oz and the Mojo Weagles usually weight less than 5oz. I know some thought the Cady weagles were better for less "blow outs" vs the Mojo and maybe Suick went back to the original weight and wood used.?? Not sure but if that is a Suick Weagle they may have. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | maybe go back a few years here, but if your weagle nose-dives it's not the bait. it is operator error ... yes, 100% you don't use it right. it's not a coverage walk-the-dog bait like a jackpot or a marauder or stuff like that. it's a side to side water plough and when you figure that out get the net. |
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Location: Twin Cities | jonnysled - 8/9/2010 9:42 AM
maybe go back a few years here, but if your weagle nose-dives it's not the bait. it is operator error ... yes, 100% you don't use it right. it's not a coverage walk-the-dog bait like a jackpot or a marauder or stuff like that. it's a side to side water plough and when you figure that out get the net.
You really believe that?
I have 4 weagle's. One works brilliantly. Aside from bucktails, it's my #1 producer the last two seasons including my two largest fish. The other 3 run like crap and get left home. They nose dive all the time and are extremely difficult to work in a cadence. I have 3-4 friends with a couple and theirs are all over the map in how they "work". There is a wide wide wide range of how any weagle off the shelf may or may not work, IME. That's just my weagle experience, i still love the bait and it's always on the deck rigged up and ready, but it's not always the user. |
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Location: Iowa | Nope the version of weagle I'm having problems is a mojo and I don't think my scale would lie. As I said before I bought it from luke for this site. Tonight if I get sometime I will weigh them again and my other cady weagles also. And I will compare them all.
Yes I know it is not a fast paced walk the dog type. Anybody who's been around this site and the old muskienut board for any amount time knows what kind of bait this is.
I also just want to mention that I'm not trying to bash mojo at all. I've bought quite abit stuff from luke and all has been top notch stuff. So please don't think that at all.
Jeremy |
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Location: Yahara River Chain | I remember when buying a Weagle that we would take then over to the minnow tank and took the most buoyant one. |
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Location: Muskegon Michigan | Interesting replys. The heaviest Weagle I have is 4.8 ounces. 5.7 is a sinker for sure. My Cadys at 4.8 are about as heavy as you can work and I have 6 of them that all weigh between 4.6 and 4.8 . Yours is 5.7???? its a wabull if you ask me. Or one that got messed up. Mojos are much lighter than Cadys. I have refinished over dozen o them and not one is any where close to 5 ounces. My guess is your lure is too heavy. Mike |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | go talk to that iowegian named jonesi ...
Edited by jonnysled 8/9/2010 11:08 AM
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Location: Yahara River Chain | I weighed the 3 I have
Cady Original - 4.130
Mojo - 4.598
I think its a Mojo - 4.272
Edited by muskie! nut 8/9/2010 1:40 PM
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Location: Freedom, WI | Mojo weagles are popular and the wabulls are maple, look the same but weigh different. Cady weagles were maple that they weighed and took the lighter ones for weagles and heavier ones for wabulls. If I am wrong Steve Jonesi can correct me, he would know. If the one that does not work right is that heavy the blank must have got mixed up somehow as the wabull has weight added to make it sink. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Does it sink VERY slowly at rest to almost underwater?
If so, that's a magic lure. Don't get rid of it, use it. Learn to walk it on top, and tap it under on command. Best Weagle I ever had did that, it's so chewed up it's beyond fishing with any more. You will need a short rod, say 7' or a couple inches less, and will need to work the lure with your wrist and the reel to 'pop' it along. Wish I had 10 of 'em.
That said, Suick lures bought Mojo, and is building a very consistent lure these days. |
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| thanks for all the replys. i went out tonight and tried using a liitle more slack and slowed it down a bunch and now i got it working great! cant wait to catch a fish on it! |
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Location: Iowa | Got a chance to weigh all mine again tonight and here is what the scale said.
Mojo (standard version)
1 - 4.1 oz
2 - 5.7 oz
Cadys (original version)
1 - 4.7 oz
2 - 4.7 oz
3 - 4.8 oz
4 - 5.0 oz
5 - 4.0 oz
I guess for now I will believe what rogers said. And that maybe I got an unweighted wabull blank? Who knows, I guess.
Trusts me steve I don't think I will be getting rid of it. I sure hope it is that magic lure. If so I better learn how to work it without getting mad at it.
Thanks everybody for your input and sorry to the original poster for taking over your post.
Jeremy |
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