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| Alot of talk about trolling speeds and burning baits lately got me thinking, which is something I rarely do. Ok not at all. When you burn your baits back to the boat, how fast do you think they are going? I have done some comparisons and I beleive when you burn a bucktail, it's really only going about 2.5mph, 3mph tops if you are reeling to beat the band. It may not even be that fast. How fast do you think you burn your baits?[:)] |
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| OK, so I had nothing better to do right now. I just conducted a Stevens Point "in-garage" lab experiment. With my 6500C spooled with 80lb. Whiplash the following data was collected;
Inches of line/reel handle revolution = 25 inches (full spool)
# of handle revolutions/second = 4.4 (22 turns in 5 sec)
Retrieve speed = 6.25 mph |
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| Ah yes, the infamous Stevens Point "in-garage" lab experiment. I've done so many of those the local university actually gave me a diploma for it. Thanks UWSP!
So, if we can burn a bait just over 6 MPH..... how fast does a lure travel when we JERK or TWITCH it? I bet its even faster. |
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| 5-6 mph is more what I would have guessed for a burned bucktail, one with very little resistance. That thinking thing didn't work out so well Todd... I'm sorry- totally just kidding!
Just as another illustration of speed = muskie: my bro was trolling a small lake that has a neck down area, and a lot of pleasure boat traffic. He was getting buzzed by tubers all night, and in approaching the bottleneck it was timed so that he and the jackass pulling the tuber were going to meet head on and just squeeze through. So he guns the motor to clear the way, you guessed it- just then a muskie hit. At the time the fish hit he was probably doing like 12!! Well he had to kinda drag that poor muskie (none the worse for wear it turned out) so that he still wouldn't get run over, and land the 38"er in the clear. I know that Ernie probably couldn't track very long at all at that kind of speed, but it did just long enough. Fish could have been following already, who knows? Cool and something to keep in mind when trolling for sure! |
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| I know its not a musky but I had a 38" pike in Saskatchewan show me what kind of speed these things are capable of. It missed a phantomn at the end of my cast, I burned it back in as fast as my 6.1:1 would go to make a cast back at it. Right before I got the bait to the boat the fish smashed it out of nowhere. If a regular retrieve is 5-6mph I know the bait was moving closer to 12-15 and that fish had no problem catching the bait and then lining up an attack from the side. Made me wonder what kind of speed you can use to trigger a strike. |
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| you can't fish fast enough! Pike and muskies can achieve speeds of 25-30miles per hours (not for swimming long distances but long enough for chasing baitfish) |
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| I once saw a documentary on the Discovery Channel where a guy was trolling shark bait at 35-40 mph just behind the transom. A camera was mounted beneath the surface to capture any "takers". Out of nowhere comes this 6-7 ft Mako which easily caught up to the chow and took a swipe.
jlong,
My next "in garage" experiment will entail utilizing a bomb calorimeter from P-chem lab to determine the caloric content of my favorite, open water crankbait.[;)] |
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| MikeT,
Ever looking for a partner in the Stevens Point area? Mail me at [email protected] |
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| At muskie shows over the past winter, I talked to guys from
Michigan (Lake St. Claire) who claim they regularily troll at speeds of 6 mph. In-Fisherman claimed last year on one of their TV shows that a muskie can "easily" strike a bait going 8-9 mph!(How come those stupid fish miss my hog wobbler???)
The high exalted muskie god, Mr. Steve Worrall, had claimed in one of his seminars (I don't think that he was drunk! LOL!) that a muskie can go from dead stop to 40 mph inside of 4'! It would seem that we couldn't retreive a bait to fast if the muskie really wanted it. |
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| steve, a surface bait is harder for a fish to hit than a subsurface bait. |
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| Hey guy's- speed in MPH means nothing. Four (4) feet per/second is ~2.73MPH (4 x 60sec x 60 minutes)/5280 = 2.7272 mph . The optimum word is "acceleration", not speed. A Muskie is the "Top Fuel Dragster" of the freshwater fish world. There is no way you can take a bait/lure away from a Muskie that wants to eat it! If a 48" Muskie wants to eat something that's 12' away, it only has to move 3 body length's to get there. The bigger the Muskie the faster it can accelerate!
http://www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/gbssci/phys/Class/1DKin/U1L1e.html
I've ripped a lure as hard as I could (~ 4-6 ft) right at the boat and the Muskie went screeming by like it was sitting still. The stupid fish missed the lure, but not because it was going to fast for the fish to catch it!
The previous cast the fish followed & disappeared in the fig 8 -Next cast-> ripped the lure at the boat & fish came out of nowhere like a demon & missed the lure. [:0] Speed change-up's work.
Now if we could rig a Muskie with an accelerometer!!! [:sun:]
Al Warner
www.spongebobismymuskiefishingguide.com |
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