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| There's a lot of talk about good fishing in Minnesota with legal trolling, but there is a big difference between two guys trolling two baits in a 15,000-acre lake in Minnesota and two guys trolling six baits in a 100-acre lake in northern Wisconsin.
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| KenK - 4/10/2010 8:19 PM
OK, I said I was done, but again you are citing an example of a fishery where the mininum size is 45 inches, but the lakes in question have a 34 inch limit with a 50% at best C&R rate, the thumps can be heard far and wide.
Best of luck in 2010, nail a fatty!!
Focker Out!
A 50% C&R rate? Do you hae any data to back that up? Overall the % released is WAY above that. |
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| Dear Mr. Huh?
Trolling will surely put more baits in the water -- few anglers cast three baits at a time -- at prime depths for longer periods. It seems likely more fish will be caught. Since the release rate is not 100 percent, more fish will be intentionally killed.
We also know that not all released fish survive, so there will also be a certain level of collateral damage.
Trolling will mean more dead fish.
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Location: Elk Grove Village, IL & Phillips, WI | Huh,
Until you live on a lake in the area, you really have no idea what really happens up there!! Thump, thump, thump..... |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | The size limit in MN is recently raised to it's current state wide, same with the other waters mentioned. Trolling has been allowed throughout history on those waters. Same with Cave Run, Illinois, Iowa, in fact, about everywhere but N Wisconsin. There's LOTS of smaller waters across the country that are very good Muskie destinations where trolling is legal.
Tradition is the reason trolling isn't legal up here now. If that's the wish of the majority, I'm fine with that. If it isn't, and the law changes, I'm fine with that too.
Harvest isn't a symptom of trolling... not cause and effect either way. Trolling is not an automatic success story..by a long shot.
If harvest is as bad as some say in the area in question, then education and raised size limits (and because of the CC, one is not possible here without the other) are needed...badly.
If the limit on Pelican goes back to 34", it won't be trolling if allowed that kills the lake, it'll be harvest....no matter what method is used to catch the fish. |
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| I wonder how all the other states that allow trolling have any fish left after hearing all you guys talk about trollers raping and piliaging the resources. After listening to you I would expect to go to LVD and see a visable line in the water where no musky is alive right at the state line because surely every musky north of the state line must have been caugth and thumped by the evil trollers in Michigan. But the funny thing is when I go there I catch more fish on the MI side than the WI side. But factual evidence be #*^@ed I guess you guys know better than all the other states in the counrty because you have lived on a lake in the one small area of the counrty that doesn't allow trolling for historical reasons. And then I guess we don't know what we are talking about because we don't live on a lake. I guess that only those who live on the lake should have a voice in the regulations and maybe even only they should be allowed to fish it also.
Will more fish be caught is trolling is legalized? Most likely there will be more caught and since the release rate is not 100% then yes more fish will end up dieing but that number will be minescule. Let's outlaw double 10 bladed bucktails while we are at it becuase more people are catching fish on these lately so they are killing more fish also. |
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| The bickering on threads like this is giving me second thoughts about going out and voting. I was going to go, now I'm not so sure.
Seriously....go and vote for what you want to vote for. If I was someone who doesn't give a rats butt about muskies and stumbled onto threads like this I'd think; "What a bunch of whiners..." We might perceive that muskie anglers are a huge group but in the grand scheme of things it's a niche hobby in the entire freshwater fishing realm. When we put our minds to it and go out and support a common cause we have a very loud voice that is ultimately better for the sport in the form of increased size limits. We are passionate, we all want to catch bigger fish, and when we join together and back each other up great things can happen. The turnout a few years ago statewide on the Pelican Lake increase was phenomenal. It's a great example of what we can accomplish when we put our minds to it.
Too often we get ticked off at one another over what strain should be stocked, trolling, where size limits should be, too much pressure, too little pressure, the world record, etc., etc., etc. We sound like a bunch of old blue hairs sitting at the beauty shop bickering over what Barbara or Rosie or Whoopi said on the latest episode of "The View." In some ways we all need to grow up, myself included. Now is not the time to bicker...go and support the stuff that is important to you. I personally will respect you more if you vote for something I don't agree with than if you don't go and vote at all. If you don't go and make your voice heard then in my mind you don't have the right to go and complain that things didn't go your way. Just go and do what you have to do this week. This argument was tiresome on the first thread it showed up on. I believe this is now the third. Let me know when it's over, I'll be out talking these hearings up to people I know so they can go and vote on this stuff too.
Edited by ulbian 4/10/2010 11:32 PM
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Location: APPLETON, WI | Amen to that. |
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