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NOFEAR
Posted 3/12/2010 7:43 PM (#428570)
Subject: One more Rod?




Posts: 208


I need to buy one more rod this spring (Untill Next Year!) which i'll use for Mag Dogs, Pounders, Supermodels etc.

Current Inventory
8' 6" XH Lamiglass- Lighter Baits
8' H St Croix Premier - Jerkbaits
9' H Predator - My Favorite- Medium bucks to Cowgirls, Topwaters Does everything but the big stuff!

I love my Predator and am thinking about getting another (9' 6" XH) Predator Rod for the bigger baits. I will never go shorter than 9' after fishing longer rods with the exception of my jerkbait rod.
If you were to have a rod built for this application what would you purchase or have built? Length/Action/Power/Blank

Thanks!
archerynut36
Posted 3/12/2010 7:49 PM (#428573 - in reply to #428570)
Subject: Re: One more Rod?





Posts: 1887


Location: syracuse indiana
the tackle industries mega rod is the rod you need believe me darn good rod for the money and well built for the price, you wont find any better...bill

im sure james may say something about his rods, check out the link under neith in my forum reply for his link

Edited by archerynut36 3/12/2010 7:51 PM
50"skie
Posted 3/12/2010 8:02 PM (#428580 - in reply to #428570)
Subject: Re: One more Rod?





Posts: 425


Yes, Tackle Industries rods are really good! I Used there 9ft Mag Heavy all last fall.
Jake
Chas
Posted 3/13/2010 7:10 AM (#428631 - in reply to #428570)
Subject: RE: One more Rod?




Posts: 231


NOFEAR - 3/12/2010 7:43 PM

I need to buy one more rod this spring (Untill Next Year!) which i'll use for Mag Dogs, Pounders, Supermodels etc.
I love my Predator and am thinking about getting another (9' 6" XH) Predator Rod for the bigger baits. I will never go shorter than 9' after fishing longer rods with the exception of my jerkbait rod.
If you were to have a rod built for this application what would you purchase or have built? Length/Action/Power/Blank

I love my Predator too. If money is not a issue for you, then I would go for it. LOL I just had a 9' XH built a couple months ago by Frank (Franks Customs), and couldn't be happier.

I have a lot of different blanks, and this is definitley my favorite. There's a number of options out on the market in that 100.00 to 150.00 range, that are nice rods. I don't think they can be compared to the predator though, and in respect to the price difference, shouldn't be. Here's a little sample of the wrap designs, from the Predator that Frankie built.

Chas

http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/get-attachment.asp?act...
Tackle Industries
Posted 3/13/2010 8:25 AM (#428636 - in reply to #428631)
Subject: RE: One more Rod?





Posts: 4053


Location: Land of the Musky
"There's a number of options out on the market in that 100.00 to 150.00 range, that are nice rods. I don't think they can be compared...."

I have always been confused by this view. So high price = high quality ? If I charged $225 for my rods would they be equivalent to other rods in that price range or if I charged $350-$400 would they be just as good a St. Croix?

My buddy has an MBA from a big time school and has sold a lot of stuff in his life. He has told me many times I will sell more rods and lures if I raise my prices because people do think that way....they equate high quality with high prices. Not sure how to overcome this by charging a decent price but getting the point across that my products are high quality. I guess word of mouth is about the only way.

Just a few thoughts, not trying to bust your blls Chas I know you were not referring to my rod directly. I have seen that comment a few times and heard it many times at my full time job when we are figuring out the market value of our "widgets". It is a funny phenomenon that happens with consumers a lot of the time. I myself am trying not to move my product lines in that direction.

James
Chas
Posted 3/13/2010 10:24 AM (#428655 - in reply to #428570)
Subject: Re: One more Rod?




Posts: 231


It's all good, James! You're right, I wasn't referring to your rods. I'm sure they are a quality sticks. (I've never tried one). I was just confirming (MHO) what "NOFEAR" had said about his Predator....
NOFEAR - 3/12/2010 7:43 PM
I love my Predator and am thinking about getting another (9' 6" XH) Predator Rod
.

It had nothing to do with your qaulity product. Is ithe Predator better then your line of rods because it cost more money? I have no idea? I'm not smart enough to answer that question.LOL

Chas
porterhouse
Posted 3/13/2010 10:37 AM (#428657 - in reply to #428570)
Subject: Re: One more Rod?





Location: Apple Valley
James,
Will you have your rods at the MN muskie expo?

Thanks!
Brian
Tackle Industries
Posted 3/13/2010 11:37 AM (#428661 - in reply to #428570)
Subject: Re: One more Rod?





Posts: 4053


Location: Land of the Musky
LOL Chas. That is an interesting business issue though. Fortune 500 companies spend millions just debating that question. I bet I spent 40 hours in meetings last year with 4-8 people in the room discussing price points. For Predator quality, I have yet to hear of that rod failing any quality issue so I am sure it would do well for anyone. They make a great rod from what I hear but I have not used one yet myself.

For my rods at the MN show, yes. They will be in two booths I think. Getting it figured out now. I think a guide booth will have 6-10 and another booth will have 6-10 rods. I will let you know when they confirm.

Edited by Tackle Industries 3/13/2010 11:39 AM
NateSki
Posted 3/13/2010 1:11 PM (#428672 - in reply to #428661)
Subject: Re: One more Rod?





Posts: 48


Location: New London, MN
James,
Make sure and send a few of your Mega Heavys to the expo Myself and the old man each want one.
shaley
Posted 3/13/2010 4:23 PM (#428695 - in reply to #428672)
Subject: Re: One more Rod?





Posts: 1184


Location: Iowa Great Lakes
I'll also say to give one of the Tackle Industries rods a try, I love mine. I also have a Predator Heavy and love it also Don't let the price fool you the TI rods are as good as the Predators, at least IMO.
dougj
Posted 3/13/2010 5:00 PM (#428702 - in reply to #428570)
Subject: RE: One more Rod?





Posts: 906


Location: Warroad, Mn
Take a look at the 9'-3" Okuma EX. It's designed for big plastics.

Doug Johnson
allegheny river kid
Posted 3/13/2010 5:18 PM (#428708 - in reply to #428570)
Subject: Re: One more Rod?




Posts: 463


Location: Sw Pennsylvania
I bought the Tackle industries rod in the fall and threw alot of big plastics with it, i was impressed with it especially for the money. Look forward to using it more this year with big blades also...The Extra heavy 3 to 12oz is what i used.
PSYS
Posted 3/13/2010 9:27 PM (#428741 - in reply to #428570)
Subject: Re: One more Rod?





Posts: 1030


Location: APPLETON, WI
Just bought an 8'6" XH Mag Heavy from James last week. Haven't had a chance to try it yet... but the craftsmanship and quality is superb. I'll be buying a 2nd one this year from him. For the cost equivalent of a "custom" Predator or a Legend Tourney... I can get the same rod from James at Tackle Industries, plus have a LOT of extra cash to apply towards a reel, as well.

It's a no-brainer for me.
NOFEAR
Posted 3/13/2010 10:27 PM (#428761 - in reply to #428741)
Subject: Re: One more Rod?




Posts: 208


Scott, I have to ask you have you ever fished with a Predator or Legend Tourney? Dont take this the wrong way but your promoting a rod you haven't even fished with yet and your going to buy another one?
PSYS
Posted 3/14/2010 7:00 AM (#428780 - in reply to #428761)
Subject: Re: One more Rod?





Posts: 1030


Location: APPLETON, WI
I've not fished with my own (that I got last week)...

But my buddy in Minnesota has the MegaHeavy version he uses for big rubber. I've thrown his enough to know that it's a heck of a bargain. *shrug* Just food for thought. I'm not a pro by any means. Just a consumer trying to keep my head above water in today's crappy economy. I'm simply saying before anyone inquiring plunk down upwards of $450 for a new rod... the ones from Tackle Industries are worth researching.

Edited by PSYS 3/14/2010 7:01 AM
Tackle Industries
Posted 3/14/2010 9:09 AM (#428796 - in reply to #428570)
Subject: Re: One more Rod?





Posts: 4053


Location: Land of the Musky
If you want to touch one of my Tackle Industries rods they will be at the MN show! Just confirming the 1 or 2 booths that will have them for the show. Hope to have 10-20 rods there. I will post what booth(s) they will be in ASAP.
sworrall
Posted 3/14/2010 9:19 AM (#428800 - in reply to #428570)
Subject: Re: One more Rod?





Posts: 32959


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Okuma EVX XXH does a great job at about $120. Haven't fished Jame's rods yet, but hear good things.
porterhouse
Posted 3/14/2010 10:01 AM (#428802 - in reply to #428570)
Subject: Re: One more Rod?





Location: Apple Valley
Thanks James!!! I will be buying one of your rods at the expo for sure!!!!



Brian
Tackle Industries
Posted 3/14/2010 11:08 AM (#428811 - in reply to #428570)
Subject: Re: One more Rod?





Posts: 4053


Location: Land of the Musky
Granted I do use my own rods but my next rod for my personal use will be a telescopic 9'3" Okuma. Can't wait to get that one going this year! Anyone know what powers Okuma offers in that rod model?
PSYS
Posted 3/14/2010 11:26 AM (#428820 - in reply to #428811)
Subject: Re: One more Rod?





Posts: 1030


Location: APPLETON, WI
Tackle Industries - 3/14/2010 11:08 AM

Anyone know what powers Okuma offers in that rod model?



EVX C 931XH-T... XH / 65-100 line weight / 4-16oz. lure weight

EVX C 931H-T... Heavy / 50-100 line weight / 2-10oz. lure weight

EVX C 861XXH-T... XXH / 65-130 line weight / 4-16oz. lure weight.
mcgeissler
Posted 3/14/2010 11:42 AM (#428824 - in reply to #428570)
Subject: Re: One more Rod?





Posts: 134


What length do the Okuma 9'3" telescoping rods reduce down to?
fish4musky1
Posted 3/14/2010 12:11 PM (#428829 - in reply to #428570)
Subject: Re: One more Rod?





Location: Northern Wisconsin
7'7"
JakeStCroixSkis
Posted 3/14/2010 12:12 PM (#428830 - in reply to #428570)
Subject: Re: One more Rod?





Posts: 1425


Location: St. Lawrence River
Cant go wrong with a tackle industries.
Chas
Posted 3/14/2010 12:28 PM (#428835 - in reply to #428824)
Subject: Re: One more Rod?




Posts: 231


Again, I wasn't knocking any of the other rods. The reason I brought up the "100.00 to 150.00" price range comment, was because two other guys had suggested NOFEAR look into James's line of rods. That's cool & I get it. Believe me. I have have a Okuma 8'6" XXH, and think it's a great rod for the money, I even put up a link to a tackle online warehouse that had a one year aniversery 20% off deal going on, on a already "great priced rod".

The Okuma will DEFINITELY get the job done. I'm sure James's rods are great too. Do I think my Okuma is as nice as my Predator? No, I don't. That's JMHO. Also, it's not fair to Okuma for me to compare it to my Predator. Especially seeing how the Okuma was a quarter of the price.

As far as St. Croix & the Predator marking up there blanks 300.00 dollars more.... I don't know about that.... All I know was the final question asked in the first post "If you were to have a rod built for this application what would you purchase or have built? Length/Action/Power/Blank", was the what I was reffering to. (Predator)

Chas
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