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| Hello,
I like to buy a boat next year. At the moment I look at Lund boats and Tracker boats. I already know some boats. For example a TRACKER Pro Guide V-16 SC wit 60HP Yamaha. The driving characteristics are good, just like the Crestliner Fish Hawk 1600 SC with 50 HP Susuki. I look for a Lund in the same dimension like a 1675 Explorer - SS. How does the boat behaves on the water (big water)? And how is the quality?
Has the boat any problems with the rivet cennection? A friend of mine has drived a Alumacraft, who had have big problems with the rivet cennection. So he has changed his boat to a Tracker because it is welded. But when I saw the weld seam I think that this is not a good weld seam.
And has the boat any problems with big stone contact´s? In Sweden you have a lot of stone contact´s in the holliday... I'm really worried about that.
I hope you understand my english.
Thanks and regards from Germany.
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Posts: 135
| Since you are in Germany, you should buy the boat that will PROBABLY have the least problems. I am biased, I have a Lund. In my opinion, Lund would be your best choice. I am sure Tracker owners may disagree, but I feel that is your best choice. I bought a new tiller Lund in 1997, and a new wheel Lund in 2000, arthritis in my left shoulder, made that happen. I average over 100 launches a year, ZERO problems with the Lunds.
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Location: Green Bay, WI | Welds break, and rivets can loosen over time. They each have their benefits, and their faults I suppose. I have owned several aluminum boats, and all have been riveted hulls. I have no concerns whatsoever about riveted hulls--I am a licensed aircraft mechanic, and have driven literally thousands of rivets. In general, riveted hulls are easier to repair than welded hulls, especially when you can drill out a driven rivet and install a blind rivet--just like in aircraft. Dab a little touch-up paint on the rivet head, and you are finished. With a welded hull, there's going to be repainting involved, at the very least.
That being said, I have seen the Tracker boats--and they look very nice. But last year when I was in the market for a new aluminum boat, I bought a Lund Tyee. Simply put, there are thousands of aluminum aircraft out there flying around with riveted hulls; and many of these things get pressurized and de-pressurized on each flight. You simply don't hear of any major issues with the rivets themselves, for the most part. And the stresses due to flight are every bit as significant as running it on the water. Obviously I am biased towards a riveted hull, but there's a good reason for that...
In the end you'll have to ask yourself what you want out of the boat, and how long you intend to keep it. Then you'll simply have to decide what's best for you. But I can tell you that, for me, the Lund offered everything I wanted--though they do cost more than the Tracker, from my experience. But Alumacraft makes a fine hull as well, and I owned one several years ago. But the local dealer I wanted to buy through doesn't carry Alumacraft, so I moved up to a Lund and have never been sorry. But the Lund is substantially more expensive than the Alumacraft--so that might be a consideration for you.
TB
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Posts: 431
| The decision between Tracker and Lund is really about price. I will say that my dad had a really good experience with Trackers customer service. After he had owned the boat for 5 years or so, it was leaking pretty good through one of the welds. Tracker fixed the leak, recarpeted the parts that had to be taken apart and replaced the entire steering cable assembly at no charge (the local dealership had quoted my dad $700 on the steering cable). I think the older trackers were much lower quality than the newer trackers. My dad ultimately bought the tracker tv18 because he could get a modified v hull with a bass boat layout. |
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Location: United States | I've had a Lund 1700 Pro Angler DLX for 13 years now and it is as solid today as it was brand new. Fairly rough in windy conditions but most boats in the 16 to 17 foot range are. I have also had a roller trailer the entire time. Initially I was concerned about long term wear on the rivots specifically where the boat sits on the rollers but after 13 years I really don't think about it anymore. Is it Lund quality or just good luck?? |
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Location: Cherry Valley IL | The lund is the way to go. But if you want to take it out on big water I would get at least a 17 foot. But you will be dissapointed in either boat if you don't up grade the motor to max hp, and I would get your trolling motor with 80 lbs of thrust. |
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| Thanks for your responses.
It is good to hear that the Lund Boats are more than 10 years hold.
Because they are in Europe very expensive, a Lund 1675 Explorer cost 25655 $ with nothing, no trailer, no motor... And a Tracker V16SC cost 17600$ also with no trailer and no motor. So I look for a boat which have a good quality.
The best solution is to buy a boat complete in the USA but no boat-dealer do that...
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I know it's possible, because Lund and Tuffy exported boats completely rigged to a Guide in Ireland not long ago. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Rivets have their positives and negatives, so do aluminum welds. Both work just fine.
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Location: Olathe< Kansas | One of the most important thing when getting a new / used boat is "the dealer".
All boats have a problem ever now and then-- It's the dealer that can make a big differance in how your boat is handled... So check out the dealers-- take a few test rides/ drives.. And have fun..
Good luck --- and post some pics of your new ride..
Rick
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Location: New Brighton, MN | I have a 26 year old Lund 4.9 XRV with a 75hp Evinrude "Sport".
The boat has no leaks to this day.
by the way - I've never seen another 4.9 XRV to this day either.
has anyone else? When can I start calling it "classic"?
Willis
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Location: Hastings, mn, 55033 | The new Tracker Tundras dont have rivets OR welds correct? |
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| The new Tracker Tundras dont have rivets OR welds correct?
the Tundras are "all welded formed aluminum" which i believe means the majority of the hull is formed/shaped which allows for better design, but still requires welds at certain contact points.
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| Owned a tracker and very happy with the hull, and beat it up fairly regularly, traded it finally, because it was just too small for some of the water I was on. Got a Lund. It does fine and has taken some abuse but, to do it again I would go back to the tracker in a similar model, #1 reason, the Tracker is better designed and better thought out than the Lund.
Also, both boats get extended trailer mileage and no problems with either in terms of riding wear. All in all, get the tracker, save the cash and use it for rigging the boat with top end stuff, and likely you'll be happier in the long run. |
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| Lund gets my vote, the fit and finish rod lockers and such are better in a Lund. Tracker makes a very nice boat ,but open all the hatches, rod lockers and you will see the Lund feels more solid and durable. |
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| I have both a 16 ft targa with a 60hp 4 stroke and the lund explorer 16 ft with the same engine. The lund is much nicer to look at but rides very wet and rough in big water. The tracker has the deep v hull and is my overall pick. and i have both. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | There will be no Tracker all welded Tundras next year;discontinued. Look at the 2010 Lunds, LOTS of innovation this year on the hulls and the interiors. The Predator is really nice.... |
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Posts: 388
| I own a Crestliner Fishhawk and love it but consider the Lund boats to be top of the line. Wish I could have bought a Lund Explorer while they still made them for the same price as my Fishhawk.
The new Predator line looks really great. Has a longer front deck like the Fishhawks do. |
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| I've got an 83 S-18 Lund, that was purchased new in 83, I'm a duck hunter, so I do abuse my boat. I've been more than satisfied with the boat, actually had to replace the trailer before the boat!! I have hit trees underwater at 40 mph and it doesn't phase the boat. I also run an 05 SSV-18, and other than it's got a better designed hull (TRUE V HULL), the old boat is just as nice. I have never had a rivet leak on a lund and don't expect it to either. |
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Location: Grand Rapids MN | I know this post is a little "old" but thought I would put out my experience and input. All I've owned is a Tracker so far but have been in a few Lunds. Are lunds nicer... maybe in some models but you have to ask yourself are you going to see $8000 more worth of quality out of a lund versus a tracker. The next deal breaker would be what kind of warranty and how the company honors this warranty. Never dealt with either but I remember seeing somewhere that Tracker may be tougher to deal with on problems?!? I could be wrong but worth investigating.
As for me I've never had a problem with my Targa as far as fit, finish, and function.
Edited by Targa01 12/18/2009 9:37 PM
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Location: Brighton, Ontario, CANADA | My experience with Tracker would make me say, don't buy Tracker.
Had a 1999 (bought new) Tracker Pro Angler V16. Had problems with the rivets popping
Heard Lund is good.
Myself, I now have a Lowe 165 Fishing Machine...very happy with it
Fishing buddy of mine has a Crestliner Fishhawk, he's very happy with it
I'd personally stay away from Tracker.
I also believe their aluminum is thinner than other boats (not 100% sure of this)...but it's something else to consider
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