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Location: Kronenwetter, WI | I'm looking at a 96 Ranger 690 The rig does not have a trolling motor up front so I would get to pick my own. I have a 24v maxxum right now and like it, but would consider a Terrova. I like the cable drive b/c it does not suck juice to turn the head but maybe that is not a problem with the 36v systems?
For those who are running Terrova, do you like?
Thanks in advance.
Edited by Cowboyhannah 11/18/2009 9:36 PM
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Location: Kodiak, AK | I've not noticed an issue with the power usage turning the head, and I have the 24v. I can fish a couple of days on a charge no problem; it's not an issue. I run mine off of CoPilot, so I don't use the pedal, though I do carry it in the boat. It's a great motor and I can control it from anywhere in the boat and there's no pedal to try and balance on when I'm 3' chop. I can stand back by my console and cast and stay dry and safe and still run the motor. My boat came with a Maxxum from Sled, and I swapped that out after about a month. A 36v would be nice, but the 24/80 lb pulls my boat just fine. (620) |
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Location: Iowa Great Lakes | I have run them on friends boats, a big upgrade from the cable drives. Ours will have one on it come spring. I run a PD on my walleye boat and its been a good motor, I can troll spinners all day with it and sttill have power left at the end of a day. |
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| Get as much motor as you can afford. I put a 101, 36V on a Champion 191DC this year and loved it. Never ran out of batteries and tons of power to maintain control in whatever conditions. Went on a 4 day camping trip this summer and still had plenty of power on day 4 to control the boat in wind. If you fish long hours and big waters I'd go bigger to be safe. Nothing worse than cutting a day short because the trolling motor batteries are dead. Had it happen this summer in a buddy's boat, sucks. As esoxfly said, Terrovas also give you the flexibility to fish from wherever you want in the boat. Nice to be able to let someone else take the front of the boat once in a while. |
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Location: Twin Cities | I've got the same rig cowboy and i'm planning on the same thing as esoxfly. Currently my rig has a 55/24v and I can burn that up quick. I looked at the 101/36v but i'm just not sure I need that much either...but the points made here about running out are ringing in my ears constantly. Whichever size I get, it will be a terrova for the simple matter of the iPilot being compatible. So what length shaft? 54" seems like it would be plenty.
On my previous boat I ran a PD and never noticed shorter battery life if I was turning the head a lot, FWIW. |
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Location: Otsego, MN | For shaft length you will want to go 60" there will be times when it matters. I had a 618vs with a Terrova 80lb with the 60" shaft. I could have easily gone 54" but opted for the 60". There was times this year is came in to play. Like mentioned earlier in the posts go with the biggest trolling motor you can afford, for your rig. Your trolling motor is your number one tool when casting for 12 hours in a day. |
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Location: Iowa Great Lakes | Jeff got with the 60" shaft, we have a 54" on our muskie boat and sometimes it's not enough. |
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Location: Twin Cities | Thanks for the opinion Pedro and shaley, I don't disagree except to say that my boat currently has a 48 and only 1 time this season did I have to lower that all the way. Maybe a poor sampling of data though to generalize that much. Last 4 weekends on Mille Lacs though without issue, 690 bow rides pretty low which I like.
Is the 80lb enough on that 618?
Edited by JRedig 11/19/2009 10:30 AM
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| Get the 60", no reason not to... - I have 60" on my 195VS (bass boat) - you can always "lock" it up 6 " under calm conditions. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | Get the 60" for sure...there have been many days I've had my 690 on larger lakes I wished mine had a 65" or 70" shaft..when they build it I will buy it....If you plan on fishing any lake over 2k acres get the 60"....you will be much happier if you do...
getting a short trolling motor shaft is like putting less than the max hp on the back of your boat...dumb.
I have an 80 lb AP, 24 volt with two 31 AGM batteries...there hasn't been a day I've come close to running out of juice...
personally I do not like the Terrovas foot pedal and would not get one...imo the PD foot pedal is simple/easy and works well.. I would buy another PD like the one I have and would be forced to go with the 70 lb as I think that is their biggest in the PD but I know that would work just fine on my 690.
I also don't quite get the concept of guys not having their trolling motors all the way down, all the time, unless you are fishing in less than 2 feet of water or running the boat from the back so you can see the head, what is the point to raising them up?
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| I suppose the hours you get out of a charge has to do with a lot of different factors. The one time we almost completely ran out of juice on a 24V system was up on Eagle on day 5 of the trip. Could have been the batteries weren't getting fully charged for one reason or another at night (Old batteries, inadequate charger, etc.) or because of how I use a trolling motor.
JRedig, I can't believe you are getting by with a 48" shaft on Mille Lacs! Must be calm out there or you are doing a lot of trolling! My boat is a bass boat and came with a 48" shaft Motor Guide. That thing would pop out of the water in 2' waves with me in the front. I went with a 60" shaft because why not have the extra six inches if you have the room in the bow?
Brad, I agree about the foot pedal. I only use the bottom of it and the speed adjustment anyway. The rest is useless to me.
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Location: Contrarian Island | the newer PD V2 foot pedals are different than the the one I have..the older PD pedals...imo they are all a musky guy needs..left / right and go...if I could design a foot pedal it would be just like the one i have only there would be a button on the far right side that would be "1.5 times speed" ....so when you get those gusts of wind you could press that and instead of say power 4 you have it on, it would boost the power to 6 for that gust....I have submitted the idea to Minn Kotas website but they haven't listened to me ... yet .. ; ) |
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Location: Otsego, MN | JRedig, the 80lb Terrova was just fine on my 618 power wise. I ran Optima blue tops and never ran low on the juice. I had a 80lb on my 620T previously with the same batteries and never had an issue with power or running out of juice. |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | JRedig - 11/19/2009 11:29 AM
Thanks for the opinion Pedro and shaley, I don't disagree except to say that my boat currently has a 48 and only 1 time this season did I have to lower that all the way. Maybe a poor sampling of data though to generalize that much. Last 4 weekends on Mille Lacs though without issue, 690 bow rides pretty low which I like.
Is the 80lb enough on that 618?
Get the 80#/60". 80 is plenty for that that boat. It's enough for mine. 101 would be cool, but I've already got four batteries on my boat, so one more would be too much. The 80 moves my boat fine.
As far as the shaft, get the long one. I too don't know how you've made it with a 48. I've pulled my 60" out of the water several times this year. LSC is big water, but it's not uncommon. Get the 60" and be done with it. |
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Location: Kronenwetter, WI | I have the 80/24v maxumm and was forced off the water for low juice this summer at midnight when I wanted to fish longer on my annual summer trip. For sure am going with a 101---the terrova with AP and remote seems like the last one I'd ever need to buy. |
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Location: Otsego, MN | Remember a quality set of batteries! |
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Location: Twin Cities | If you're thinking of doing iPilot, skip the AP. Comes built into it...that'll save you a couple hundred bucks.
Thanks for the thoughts guys, i've seen some rough stuff on the pond (hard to stand up) but haven't had any problems. (haven't done much trolling either) I guess the difference is probably that I don't fight the wind, I work with it. Haven't tried spending time going into it or anything like that...that'd probably do it.
For you guys with the 80lb motors on the rangers, how fast can you go? |
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Location: Kronenwetter, WI | With my 80 maxxum on my 619 I can cover water at what I consider a pretty good clip when 'searching' at 1.75 MPH and casting structure. I don't feel I can go much faster than that and do a thorough job dissecting structure. For trolling purposes I use my kicker. Never really clocked how fast I could go at 100% trust, b/c only do that on very rare occasions like retrieving a lure and trying to prevent disaster. To conserve battery power going into the wind, I lock my kicker in straight ahead and use for extra thrust then just use maxxum to correct course. |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | JRedig - 11/19/2009 3:55 PM
If you're thinking of doing iPilot, skip the AP. Comes built into it...that'll save you a couple hundred bucks.
Thanks for the thoughts guys, i've seen some rough stuff on the pond (hard to stand up) but haven't had any problems. (haven't done much trolling either) I guess the difference is probably that I don't fight the wind, I work with it. Haven't tried spending time going into it or anything like that...that'd probably do it.
For you guys with the 80lb motors on the rangers, how fast can you go?
I "work with it" too. Drifting weed beds is the name of the game on LSC, but if you're in 3' chop, you're going to get rocked- going with the wind, into it, sideways, diagonal...you're going to pull your motor out of the water. At least I do.
As far as speed, on my boat, I'll do 2.8-2.9 on flat water. |
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Location: Cedarburg, Wisconsin | Ran one two seasons now, great motor! |
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Location: Iowa Great Lakes | Best thing for those of us that drift fish structure next to the bow mount is a good drift sock. It's rare we go against the wind , may be easier to do once we get rid of the POS Maxum, an hour fighting that thing I'm ready to quit. |
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