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psv
Posted 10/20/2009 12:33 AM (#405640)
Subject: Bull Dawg History ?




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Location: MN
I tried to find any information about Bull Dawg History and my search was unsuccessful. I'm just curious how and when the Bull Dawg's were created and who was an inventor of such great line of plastic lures. I'd really appreciate your input.
Thank you, in advance.
Regards, PSV


Edited by psv 10/20/2009 12:38 AM
psv
Posted 10/21/2009 1:15 PM (#405897 - in reply to #405640)
Subject: RE: Bull Dawg History ?




Posts: 469


Location: MN
Anybody ?
Tackle Industries
Posted 10/21/2009 2:14 PM (#405903 - in reply to #405640)
Subject: RE: Bull Dawg History ?





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Location: Land of the Musky
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Pikopath
Posted 10/21/2009 3:41 PM (#405909 - in reply to #405640)
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Location: Norway
Hehe I remember I posted that pic once, james. Its a grenadier fish, if anyone wonder

Michael
RiverMan
Posted 10/21/2009 4:05 PM (#405911 - in reply to #405640)
Subject: Re: Bull Dawg History ?




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Location: Oregon
Maybe you should write the manufacturer????
psv
Posted 10/21/2009 6:06 PM (#405922 - in reply to #405640)
Subject: Re: Bull Dawg History ?




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Location: MN
Jed,
Maybe.
Tackle Industries
Posted 10/21/2009 6:12 PM (#405923 - in reply to #405640)
Subject: Re: Bull Dawg History ?





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Location: Land of the Musky
Ya, I love those pictures. Wish I took them so I could use them on my websites. That is one cool looking deep ocean fish. I think a tsunami brought that one up if I remember the story correctly. I doubt many musky get to eat those Wasn't it your buddy who took the pictures pikopath?
BenR
Posted 10/21/2009 6:29 PM (#405927 - in reply to #405640)
Subject: Re: Bull Dawg History ?


I think it would be very hard to find out who invented a rubber bodied bait...jigs and tails have been around forever...
psv
Posted 10/21/2009 10:36 PM (#405971 - in reply to #405640)
Subject: Re: Bull Dawg History ?




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Location: MN
I really enjoyed reading the Frank Suick story on their website and I was thinking that I can find something like this about Bull Dawgs. No luck so far.

Edited by psv 10/21/2009 10:37 PM
Pikopath
Posted 10/22/2009 3:28 AM (#405978 - in reply to #405640)
Subject: Re: Bull Dawg History ?




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Location: Norway
James, yes, if I remember correct, so was the fish photographed at a pier, where trawlers dock. So It has probably been caught, deep, and dumped at the dock. They live very deep, and are not occurring natural in shallow waters. And if you google grenadier fish, and look at pictures, they dont look like SuperD/BD at all, its just in that picture, still a cool looking fish tho.

Michael
Muskerboy
Posted 10/22/2009 2:43 PM (#406038 - in reply to #405927)
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BenR - 10/21/2009 6:29 PM

I think it would be very hard to find out who invented a rubber bodied bait...jigs and tails have been around forever...

Joe Borgwardt invented the first plastic musky bait, the big joe!
psv
Posted 10/22/2009 6:52 PM (#406067 - in reply to #405640)
Subject: RE: Bull Dawg History ?




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Location: MN
Muskerboy,
Thank you, very much. I googled Joe Borgwardt and found this article written by Steve Heiting:
http://www.fishinfo.com/fishing-articles/article_431.shtml
muskie24/7
Posted 10/23/2009 12:59 PM (#406138 - in reply to #406067)
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You can probably start with Mr. Twister! The rest are just Knock offs! LOL! Just kidding everyone!

Brian
sworrall
Posted 10/23/2009 4:36 PM (#406172 - in reply to #405640)
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Uhhh, I don't think so on the first soft plastic Muskie lure comment..from Steve's article:

'It was about forty years ago when a group of Illinois anglers lit up northern Wisconsin’s muskies by fishing with outsized bass jigs rigged with an eel-like piece of plastic called a “reaper.” Did that cause musky hunters to change their ways? No, because most viewed the fishermen’s success as a fluke. '

That 'group of Illinois anglers' actually was Jim Cairnes, Don Worrall, Larry Latino, Tony Portincaso, Spence Petros, Frank Rondone, Buel Coley, and a few others.Soon to follow were the McBride brothers and a cadre of others from Jimmy Cairnes' home town; Rockford IL.

I was lucky enough to grow up fishing with many of these guys. My dad designed the first true 'big fish' stand-up jig on our kitchen table in the early 60's. My Dad brought the reaper north when Harold Ensely was about to go bust trying to get bass anglers to buy them.

I had Stembridge products building a creature in the mid 70's. Jimmy Cairnes and I built larger 'muskie only' creatures with up to 2 ounce jig heads a couple years later; Paul Repka built our custom jigs, and he was very very good at it. A Dawg is basically a Creature with the jig inside the plastic and more hooks; a cool innovation on what was out there.

I don't think the Muskie public believes catching Muskies on Creatures is a fluke, but I'm kinda close to that and may be a bit biased. Billy Lindner still calls me 'The Creature Man' every time we see each other at a Lindner Media production site.
triton1
Posted 10/23/2009 5:30 PM (#406180 - in reply to #406172)
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I don't have a pic to post of it but I have an old Vivif rubber lure that my grandfather had from back in the forties. It is just a paddle tail type bait with two prongs of a treble in it. It's probably the oldest rubber bait I've personally seen.
Vince Weirick
Posted 10/23/2009 9:12 PM (#406200 - in reply to #405640)
Subject: Re: Bull Dawg History ?





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Location: Palm Coast, FL
psv,

One of the first muskie lures I ever owned was a bull dawg. I remember ordering them from Cabelas about 13-15 years ago. I only remember them coming in the standard size (9" model) and only in about 4 or 5 different colors. Hope that helps in your quest.
esoxaddict
Posted 10/23/2009 10:17 PM (#406208 - in reply to #406038)
Subject: Re: Bull Dawg History ?





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Muskerboy - 10/22/2009 2:43 PM

BenR - 10/21/2009 6:29 PM

I think it would be very hard to find out who invented a rubber bodied bait...jigs and tails have been around forever...

Joe Borgwardt invented the first plastic musky bait, the big joe!


I think you'll have to go about 20 years further back than that...
psv
Posted 10/23/2009 11:53 PM (#406219 - in reply to #405640)
Subject: Re: Bull Dawg History ?




Posts: 469


Location: MN
Guys,
Thank you, very much for all information. It seems, there is quiet a long history behind the current Bull Dawgs

Edited by psv 10/23/2009 11:55 PM
sworrall
Posted 10/24/2009 6:57 AM (#406227 - in reply to #405640)
Subject: Re: Bull Dawg History ?





Posts: 32886


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
The Creature evolved from the old squirm'n jig, a true p.o.s. plastic worm...first mass produced of it's type. Jim Cairnes won an early 1950's bass championship in Illinois on that lure. The lures we made back then were made out of plastisol, and they still are, rubber wasn't used in any of the processes I am familiar with and is a term generally used to describe lures made of plastisol. Here's one from Bone in 1970, and an image from Balsam the same trip. That's the neat thing about jigs, one can and will catch most anything on them; even on the big models.

The next image is my Dad from 1961 holding fish caught out of Bangs Lake in Wauconda Il caught on a jig and plastic worm. The next is from 1978, a year I put a couple big girls in the net on Creatures and a several years after I figured out how to catch the big walleyes on the weedlines in Pelican and a couple other lakes. I think my largest Creature Muskie was caught in 1976, I was driving an old Starcraft glass boat powered by a massive 20HP Merc graduating from my Dad's 14' Alumacraft.

If I remember correctly, an article about soft plastics and multi-specie fishing was published with images of some us holding of big Pelican 'eyes in the November 1979 issue of In Fisherman, giving my Dad credit for much of the innovation in jig fishing.


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