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Message Subject: Rediscovering the Joys of Old Baits
nwild
Posted 8/3/2009 9:56 AM (#391994)
Subject: Rediscovering the Joys of Old Baits





Posts: 1996


Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain
It seems we have all been chasing the silver bullet in baits for the last umpteen years, looking for a bait that outperforms anything we have ever thrown before. After buying hundreds of baits, I have rediscovered the joys of something old...ten inch unweighted suicks.

I have been throwing them alot this summer and been very successful with them. I never stopped throwing them, but used them as a fill in bait or a single purpose tool in weeds, way too much over the last several years. After stepping it up to a starring role in the rotation and giving it the proper amount of play time, these things flat out catch fish under any circumstances. It far outperformed any bait in the box on my most recent LOTW trips. Just goes to show that old baits don't stop working, we just tend to gravitate toward something new.

Anybody else finding the joys of the old school baits?
jlong
Posted 8/3/2009 11:00 AM (#392000 - in reply to #391994)
Subject: RE: Rediscovering the Joys of Old Baits





Posts: 1937


Location: Black Creek, WI
heh heh heh... yup.

I just spent the past few days putting new hooks on my "retired" Reef Hawgs and Suicks. When my wife asked me what I was doing I told her, "I'm going RETRO!"
momuskies
Posted 8/3/2009 11:04 AM (#392001 - in reply to #392000)
Subject: Re: Rediscovering the Joys of Old Baits




Posts: 431


Last year my dad and I went bass fishing on a local lake here in Missouri. I caught several and he wasn't doing much, so he went digging in his box for a while. He came out with a vintage kwik fish. First cast, bam, bass on. Second cast, bam. Third cast bam. He went on to catch 4 on the first 5 casts and maybe 15 in the next hour or 2. He loved every minute of it. Lately he's been collecting all of the rod and reel models he used as a kid. I see another vintage outing coming up some time.
fish4musky1
Posted 8/3/2009 11:08 AM (#392002 - in reply to #391994)
Subject: Re: Rediscovering the Joys of Old Baits





Location: Northern Wisconsin
my first lure, a 10 inch blank suick that i hand painted, is still one of my favorite baits. i have only been fishing for 6 years so i dont have many "old" baits
firstsixfeet
Posted 8/3/2009 11:36 AM (#392005 - in reply to #391994)
Subject: Re: Rediscovering the Joys of Old Baits




Posts: 2361


Yes but...would you be as successful on them if the fish were familiar with them and saw them everyday, or if the water temps ran 8 degrees warmer?
Partycrasher
Posted 8/3/2009 1:01 PM (#392013 - in reply to #391994)
Subject: Re: Rediscovering the Joys of Old Baits




Posts: 132


Yep, Black and white Suick for me too. A Cisco Kid Topper too. I just can't get anything going on top water this year. I just got back from Vilas Co and I never found 70 degree water.
Makintrax73
Posted 8/3/2009 2:34 PM (#392030 - in reply to #391994)
Subject: Re: Rediscovering the Joys of Old Baits





Posts: 156


It is kind of the same as hunting rifles or shotguns. Every year they have to come out with something "new" and "improved" - a 30-06 will still get done everything that really needs doing just like it has for 100 years - my 1923 AH Fox Sterlingworth still manages to kill pheasants just as good (which happens to be pretty darn good) as it did 80 years ago. There is a lot of gimmics in all the outdoor sports - mostly for catching more $$ instead of fish/birds/deer/whatever. Nothing wrong with new and improved you just have to realize that true game changers don't come around very often and budget accordingly.
Roughneck1860
Posted 8/3/2009 5:31 PM (#392076 - in reply to #392001)
Subject: Re: Rediscovering the Joys of Old Baits





Posts: 295


Location: Southern Ontario, Detroit River and Lake StClair
momuskies - 8/3/2009 12:04 PM

He came out with a vintage kwik fish.


Now I really feel old. I used to work for KwikFish when they were still made here in Windsor before LuhrJensen bought them out ummm.......quite a few years. I did all their airbrushing for them.
I have my vintage baits aswell though which are all my CreekChub Pikies. I've got 35 of them in varying age from 30-70years old. I still fish all of them on regular basis. This fish in my avatar came on a Helen Frog coloured Pikie that I painted.

Good Fishin'
Tim


Edited by Roughneck1860 8/3/2009 5:58 PM
dougj
Posted 8/3/2009 7:32 PM (#392100 - in reply to #391994)
Subject: RE: Rediscovering the Joys of Old Baits





Posts: 906


Location: Warroad, Mn
Norm:#*^@ it I told you to keep 10" Suicks under your hat, and here you go spreading it all over the web!No more tips for you! Yep, Suicks work!!!!Doug Johnson

Edited by dougj 8/3/2009 7:41 PM
esox50
Posted 8/3/2009 8:11 PM (#392108 - in reply to #391994)
Subject: Re: Rediscovering the Joys of Old Baits





Posts: 2024


I'm finding myself reaching for more and more Suicks lately. Great tool! Also finding myself reaching for an old Top Raider that has been drilled into to re-attach the internal weight, been mauled by a few muskies, and stuck in a powerline for 3-4 months...
esox911
Posted 8/3/2009 9:15 PM (#392128 - in reply to #392108)
Subject: Re: Rediscovering the Joys of Old Baits




Posts: 556


Suicks and Bobbie baits were the first baits I used 35 years ago when I began fishing for Musky's. Use to hand paint them to look like Perch ( now I can just buy them that way)--Still use them today and they still catch fish any time of year regardless of the water temp. Don't get me wrong I LIKE MY NEW BAITS---Gotta love the rubber stuff---But the old originals still produce!!!
BenR
Posted 8/3/2009 10:17 PM (#392160 - in reply to #391994)
Subject: Re: Rediscovering the Joys of Old Baits


The weagle is the newest bait I own, it is a serious new edition...but suicks, bobbies, M9 grannies, undertakers, a few 9 inch cranes...I think I shrank my box from about 500 baits to 30 baits that work...way better way to fish for me...
ghoti
Posted 8/4/2009 7:36 AM (#392202 - in reply to #391994)
Subject: RE: Rediscovering the Joys of Old Baits




Posts: 1270


Location: Stevens Point, Wi.
Old baits - yes

Old fishermen - yes

Old equipment - no way! My 5' rod, direct drive reel, and Lowarance green box are staying retired.
Grass
Posted 8/4/2009 12:12 PM (#392250 - in reply to #391994)
Subject: RE: Rediscovering the Joys of Old Baits




Posts: 620


Location: Seymour, WI
The last time I ever musky fished with my Dad, we were fishing most of the day with no action when he decided to snap on a Bobbie bait that was older than me. He's jerkin it through water and I'm thinking ... what are you doing now ... the muskies are down there laughing at that bait ... that thing looks like a pos coming through the water. About three casts later he raised the biggest fish in the lake on that old bait... easily the biggest musky I'd ever seen at the time. So yeah old baits and old fisherman can produce some big fish.

Grass,
CiscoKid
Posted 8/4/2009 12:18 PM (#392253 - in reply to #391994)
Subject: RE: Rediscovering the Joys of Old Baits





Posts: 1906


Location: Oconto Falls, WI
Really not that old of a bait, but one I had quit fishing for some time. Good 'ole 10" Jake. Use to fish it a lot and do well with it, and then the DDD came out. Got lazy due to how easy the DDD fished, and just didn't give the Jake much time anymore. Last two years now I went back to the 10" Jake, and have been doing very well with it. Looking back I was silly to stop throwing it!

I have tried a few times to go back to my ancient all black hawg wobbler, but that darn thing is just sooooooooooooo sloooooooooooooooooow.
David Bily
Posted 8/4/2009 12:30 PM (#392258 - in reply to #391994)
Subject: RE: Rediscovering the Joys of Old Baits


Yep, I still routinely throw the same Bobbie Baits that I purchased forty years ago at the general store in Elcho, Wisconsin. They no longer have any paint to spek of but that doesn't matter. They still catch fish, and every time they do, I think back to those days when I first started buying muskie lures with my allowance money. Always puts a smile on my face.
happy hooker
Posted 8/4/2009 1:05 PM (#392266 - in reply to #392258)
Subject: RE: Rediscovering the Joys of Old Baits




Posts: 3147


Suicks!!!! that guy is tryin to sell you a broom handle!!! has he was pointing to the Burger Brothers booth!!!!

that was the pitch I got at the Minneapolis spots show when I bought my first 'muskie lure a radtkes jointed sucker has a teenager cant even remember what year,, I need to dig it out

Edited by happy hooker 8/4/2009 1:07 PM
jay lip ripper
Posted 8/4/2009 2:05 PM (#392273 - in reply to #391994)
Subject: Re: Rediscovering the Joys of Old Baits





Posts: 392


Location: lake x...where the hell is it?
how about good old SINGEL bladed black buck tails.
Roughneck1860
Posted 8/4/2009 2:35 PM (#392284 - in reply to #392273)
Subject: Re: Rediscovering the Joys of Old Baits





Posts: 295


Location: Southern Ontario, Detroit River and Lake StClair
jay lip ripper - 8/4/2009 3:05 PM

how about good old SINGEL bladed black buck tails.


I've still got a couple of them I throw as well. Not sure how old they are but they were old when I got them in 1980 something. Brass shaft that's thicker than any on the market now days, single #10 or #11 blade with the clevis welded right to the blade and a single 5/0 treble with a little bit of bucktail and couple of feathers tied to it. They still catch fish too.

Tim
ToddM
Posted 8/4/2009 2:57 PM (#392291 - in reply to #391994)
Subject: RE: Rediscovering the Joys of Old Baits


I wonder if ranger will come out with a 620 made of wood?
firstsixfeet
Posted 8/4/2009 3:39 PM (#392297 - in reply to #391994)
Subject: Re: Rediscovering the Joys of Old Baits




Posts: 2361


Oooh, not to change the subject but if anybody is watching shark week did you see that cedar boat they used in the re-enactment of the New Joisey shark attacks? They had it in a couple of different scenes. A classic.
Dirt Esox
Posted 8/4/2009 4:01 PM (#392302 - in reply to #391994)
Subject: Re: Rediscovering the Joys of Old Baits




Posts: 457


Location: Minneconia
What is this new "Weagle" bait you speak of?
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