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Spallgard
Posted 6/23/2009 3:52 PM (#385191)
Subject: Cowgirl Jr Question




Posts: 87


Location: Red Wing, Minnesota
Anyone care to comment on the relative ease of use (DCG Jr.) compared to the Double Cowgirls? I have one DCG now and after using it I don't really fancy throwing it continuously without upgrading my reel, i.e. Saltist 30LW

Today I picked up Cowgirl Jr and a Double Showgirl at Thorne Bros. will try them tomorrow.


Dave
Jason Bomber
Posted 6/23/2009 4:59 PM (#385200 - in reply to #385191)
Subject: Re: Cowgirl Jr Question





Posts: 574


The Jr doesnt pull much easier than the regular, but there is a noticable difference.
Buying a saltist reel will NOT make it any easier to reel in, (faster yes, easier no)
I like the showgirls, there much easier to pull, but I dont think there nearly as effictive.

Good luck....
eric001
Posted 6/23/2009 4:59 PM (#385202 - in reply to #385191)
Subject: Re: Cowgirl Jr Question





Posts: 222


Location: c.wis
the 8's are not that much easyier to winch in- try a single 10, I made some over the winter and hands down theyare way easyer to pull in with my calcutta and even my cardiff. they thump just as much, less drag. I made on like 5 0z. and I can get it to 15' slowrollin it and its been my goto this year, well so far
muskyhunter24
Posted 6/23/2009 5:08 PM (#385205 - in reply to #385202)
Subject: Re: Cowgirl Jr Question





Posts: 413


Location: Madison WI
I can't say I have noticed the difference between the Jr DCG and the DCG. However with that being said my dbl 13's pull much easier then my DCG's.
bassinbob84
Posted 6/23/2009 6:02 PM (#385215 - in reply to #385191)
Subject: Re: Cowgirl Jr Question




Posts: 646


Location: In a shack in the woods
I have never used a jr but agree with mh24 that the 13's are easier to pull than 10's
kyle@bigwoodmuskylur
Posted 6/23/2009 6:34 PM (#385219 - in reply to #385191)
Subject: Re: Cowgirl Jr Question





Posts: 131


The Double showgirl will feel like the fastest burner bucktail you own after throwing both the DCG and the JR DCG! I ended up biting the bullet and buying a Shimano Trinidad last season for the bigger blades and it definitely makes life easier when throwing 10's and 13's all day. Some guys will only throw the big blades now on the best spots at the best times, or only once a fish has been located. That's a viable option if your not looking to break the bank on a new reel.
Spallgard
Posted 6/23/2009 7:18 PM (#385227 - in reply to #385191)
Subject: RE: Cowgirl Jr Question




Posts: 87


Location: Red Wing, Minnesota
Thanks for the responses. My DCG doesn't pull that hard on a normal retrieve unless I try to get on it. (Daiwa CVZ300 Millionaire) I was hoping to get a little more speed and less strain out of the Jr. I guess I will continue to pick and choose when and where to throw them.
I threw the DCG for about an hour straight after I first got it. Got tired and put on a large Eagletail. Wow, what a difference and relief it was.

When you guys are talking 13's I assume you are talking Sili Girls? They pull easier? Must be the longer blades then...

The Double Showgirl looks like a nice little lure. We'll see.

Thanks again.


Dave
AWH
Posted 6/23/2009 7:49 PM (#385242 - in reply to #385227)
Subject: RE: Cowgirl Jr Question





Posts: 1243


Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN
Spallgard - 6/23/2009 7:18 PM

When you guys are talking 13's I assume you are talking Sili Girls? They pull easier? Must be the longer blades then...

Dave


The Sili Girls are Musky Mayhem's silicone skirt version of the Double Cowgirl. Double 10 blades on those as well. There are a few "13s" out there. Mayhem's Super Model Double Cowgirl is generally what folks are referring to on them.

Aaron
nclaker
Posted 6/23/2009 11:41 PM (#385283 - in reply to #385191)
Subject: Re: Cowgirl Jr Question




Posts: 83


Spallguard, when your reel in your DCG, do you point your rod tip at the lure or to the side? I find it retrieves much easier if I point my rod towards it.
JRedig
Posted 6/24/2009 9:17 AM (#385329 - in reply to #385215)
Subject: Re: Cowgirl Jr Question




Location: Twin Cities
bassinbob84 - 6/23/2009 6:02 PM

I have never used a jr but agree with mh24 that the 13's are easier to pull than 10's


Not at the same speed...also, pay attention to how "flared out" your blades are on the retrieve. A bend in the blades at the clevis can have a huge effect on how hard they pull.
619musky
Posted 6/24/2009 10:11 AM (#385339 - in reply to #385191)
Subject: Re: Cowgirl Jr Question





Posts: 264


i would have to say there is a pretty big difference on the pull between a Jr and an original cowgirl. It seems like the Jr just comes through the water much easier.
muskiewhored
Posted 6/24/2009 11:46 AM (#385353 - in reply to #385191)
Subject: Re: Cowgirl Jr Question





Location: Oswego, IL
There has to be a difference I would think. Smaller blades weight and profile = less pull and water movement. Dont quite get the 13's being easier unless the blades are shaped different. Colorado will pull alot harder than say indiana blades. I could be wrong, thats happened once before.
momuskies
Posted 6/24/2009 12:18 PM (#385360 - in reply to #385191)
Subject: Re: Cowgirl Jr Question




Posts: 431


you can tell a substantial difference between a dc9 and a double cowgirl. Haven't thrown the jr., so can't comment.
muskyhunter24
Posted 6/24/2009 1:14 PM (#385368 - in reply to #385353)
Subject: Re: Cowgirl Jr Question





Posts: 413


Location: Madison WI
muskiewhored - 6/24/2009 11:46 AM

There has to be a difference I would think. Smaller blades weight and profile = less pull and water movement. Dont quite get the 13's being easier unless the blades are shaped different. Colorado will pull alot harder than say indiana blades. I could be wrong, thats happened once before.


The 13's that I am referring to are colorado blades and they pull much easier then 10's (colorado). With that being said IMO the Willowbeast pulls harder then a dbl 10 even though they are advertised as being easier to retrieve.
Targa01
Posted 6/24/2009 1:32 PM (#385374 - in reply to #385368)
Subject: Re: Cowgirl Jr Question





Posts: 742


Location: Grand Rapids MN
I've been thinking about picking up a Willowbeast... seen them at Gander and they have a huge blade. I sat one next to a DC10 and it was just about as wide but a whole lot longer. So these things don't pull as nice as claimed, huh? That was going to be the whole reason for buying one. Guess I'll stick with my Reefers and a few custom dbl #8 willows from Baldy.

muskyhunter24 - 6/24/2009 1:14 PM

muskiewhored - 6/24/2009 11:46 AM

There has to be a difference I would think. Smaller blades weight and profile = less pull and water movement. Dont quite get the 13's being easier unless the blades are shaped different. Colorado will pull alot harder than say indiana blades. I could be wrong, thats happened once before.


The 13's that I am referring to are colorado blades and they pull much easier then 10's (colorado). With that being said IMO the Willowbeast pulls harder then a dbl 10 even though they are advertised as being easier to retrieve.
muskiewhored
Posted 6/24/2009 1:42 PM (#385379 - in reply to #385191)
Subject: Re: Cowgirl Jr Question





Location: Oswego, IL
No kidding, the 13's pulls easier? Wow, thats a bit strange. Will have to do some of my own field testing on that
Bytor
Posted 6/24/2009 5:51 PM (#385434 - in reply to #385379)
Subject: Re: Cowgirl Jr Question





Location: The Yahara Chain
I have a double 13 from Figure 8 and it pulls much harder than my 10's.

10's are not Colorado blades, they are magnum blades. The JR Cowgirl blades are mag 8's and they dwarf Colorado 8's.

Retrieving strain on the body and equipment:
13's>10's>8's
porterhouse
Posted 6/24/2009 6:09 PM (#385436 - in reply to #385374)
Subject: Re: Cowgirl Jr Question





Location: Apple Valley
Targa01 - 6/24/2009 1:32 PM

I've been thinking about picking up a Willowbeast... seen them at Gander and they have a huge blade. I sat one next to a DC10 and it was just about as wide but a whole lot longer. So these things don't pull as nice as claimed, huh? That was going to be the whole reason for buying one. Guess I'll stick with my Reefers and a few custom dbl #8 willows from Baldy.

muskyhunter24 - 6/24/2009 1:14 PM

muskiewhored - 6/24/2009 11:46 AM

There has to be a difference I would think. Smaller blades weight and profile = less pull and water movement. Dont quite get the 13's being easier unless the blades are shaped different. Colorado will pull alot harder than say indiana blades. I could be wrong, thats happened once before.


The 13's that I am referring to are colorado blades and they pull much easier then 10's (colorado). With that being said IMO the Willowbeast pulls harder then a dbl 10 even though they are advertised as being easier to retrieve.


The willowbeast has been my hottest bait so far this year. I think they pull about the same as the cowgirls. I wish there was more color choices for the willowbeast.

Brian
Cast
Posted 6/24/2009 6:44 PM (#385440 - in reply to #385191)
Subject: RE: Cowgirl Jr Question


Be nice to your Cowgirl; and she'll be nice to you. Double 8s are okay, but common. Double 10s are much rarer. Showgirls are fun but can't be trusted.
Spallgard
Posted 6/25/2009 9:19 AM (#385550 - in reply to #385191)
Subject: RE: Cowgirl Jr Question




Posts: 87


Location: Red Wing, Minnesota
Yesterday I compared the DCG with my new DCG Jr. The Jr. does retrieve somewhat easier. I'd say that for the money, you might as well buy the DCG.

I also tried out the Double Showgirl (8's). It doesn't belong in the same conversation as the larger ones. Pulls easy.

After the testing was complete, I caught a fish on a Jackpot...



Dave

Edited by Spallgard 6/25/2009 9:23 AM
PSYS
Posted 6/25/2009 12:28 PM (#385596 - in reply to #385550)
Subject: RE: Cowgirl Jr Question





Posts: 1030


Location: APPLETON, WI
Spallgard - 6/25/2009 9:19 AM

After the testing was complete, I caught a fish on a Jackpot...

Dave


LOL!! Awesome...
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