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Message Subject: Creepers
50"skie
Posted 7/28/2009 7:32 PM (#390982)
Subject: Creepers





Posts: 425


What is your favorite Creeper and color? Mine is the black Hi Fin Hawg Buster but looking for some other ones to try.
Thanks!!!
lambeau
Posted 7/28/2009 8:59 PM (#390992 - in reply to #390982)
Subject: Re: Creepers


if you can find one, definitely pick up a B.S.Willy. or three.
some of the custom RyLure creeps are pretty sweet too.
get a color that you like, i don't think the fish care.
mskyhntr
Posted 7/28/2009 9:04 PM (#390994 - in reply to #390982)
Subject: RE: Creepers




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I'll second what Mike said about the B.S. Willy Creepers they are the best in the business! What makes the bs willy's better than the rest are the wings, they are much thicker than the rest.....fish after fish these things perform and they stay in tune. Some of the other custom creepers are really finicky, they are a pain to try and retune after a fish or two....not the bs willys!
bassinbob84
Posted 7/28/2009 9:37 PM (#390998 - in reply to #390982)
Subject: Re: Creepers




Posts: 646


Location: In a shack in the woods
i jsut got a lee lures creeper. i havent had a chance to use it much yet but definately like it so far.
Reef Hawg
Posted 7/29/2009 6:39 PM (#391179 - in reply to #390982)
Subject: RE: Creepers




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Location: north central wisconsin
I just got a bs willy from lambeau and plan to give it a run soon. Looks really well built.

That said, for me, creepers and creeper tuning is an odd labor of love. Once you get a few, you'll see that they all sound different, and all tune a bit differently to achieve differing actions/speeds/sounds. Just because a wing is thicker, doesn't always mean the lure will sound/work any better. Some fo the best creepers are the old lelures that Frenchy built. Some of his wings were built to flop back on a hookset and would need to be put back into place after a hit. I really like Rylure creepers in different varieties, but some of my favorites are also custom Joel Wick creepers which have some of the thinnest wings around. I keep a backup ready, as when a Wick gets smoked, it gets tuned the next morning.

Good luck in your search. There are alot of really nice creepers out there.

Edited by Reef Hawg 7/29/2009 6:43 PM
esox50
Posted 7/29/2009 6:57 PM (#391182 - in reply to #391179)
Subject: Re: Creepers





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Do folks find that Creepers tend to sink at the very beginning of a cast, particularly if it's a long one or you don't engage the reel immediately?
JKahler
Posted 7/29/2009 11:59 PM (#391247 - in reply to #390982)
Subject: Re: Creepers




Posts: 1286


Location: WI
esox50, I've never had a Creeper sink unless a fish ate it.

Ty Sennett's Creeptonite is my current favorite Creeper. LeLure makes a decent one as well.

Edited by JKahler 7/30/2009 12:00 AM
Fiedler
Posted 7/30/2009 12:09 AM (#391249 - in reply to #390982)
Subject: Re: Creepers





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Location: beloit
Tanner Wildes creepenstein is very nice
PSYS
Posted 7/30/2009 6:48 AM (#391267 - in reply to #390982)
Subject: Re: Creepers





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Location: APPLETON, WI
Maybe this is off-topic... but how do you guys fish creepers? I've never had much confidence in these topwaters. Do they only work in very calm conditions? Is it just a slow, steady retrieve back to the boat?
WI Skis
Posted 7/30/2009 12:55 PM (#391364 - in reply to #390982)
Subject: Re: Creepers





Posts: 547


Location: Oshkosh
I also like the LeLure Creepers for the price.

Peter
JRedig
Posted 7/30/2009 1:25 PM (#391377 - in reply to #391267)
Subject: Re: Creepers




Location: Twin Cities
PSYS - 7/30/2009 6:48 AM

Maybe this is off-topic... but how do you guys fish creepers? I've never had much confidence in these topwaters. Do they only work in very calm conditions? Is it just a slow, steady retrieve back to the boat?


Slow N steady for me, i've actually done well in wind with the louder one's.
Mike M
Posted 7/30/2009 2:59 PM (#391398 - in reply to #390982)
Subject: RE: Creepers


Tanner's Lil' creepers are about the best production creepers out there. Simple, time proven (didn't try to re invent the wheel), no non sense design... Better than some so called "custom" creepers I have seen out there.

sworrall
Posted 7/30/2009 5:00 PM (#391421 - in reply to #390982)
Subject: Re: Creepers





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
BS Willy gets my vote too.
50"skie
Posted 7/30/2009 5:05 PM (#391423 - in reply to #390982)
Subject: Re: Creepers





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Steve, which BS Willy do you like, the Jointed or the regular?
PSYS
Posted 7/30/2009 6:27 PM (#391440 - in reply to #390982)
Subject: Re: Creepers





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Location: APPLETON, WI
Bleh. Is it true there isn't anymore BS Willy Creepers going around? A few different links I saw on Google indicate they aren't made anymore.
mota
Posted 7/30/2009 6:41 PM (#391445 - in reply to #390982)
Subject: Re: Creepers


nah he still make them jointed or straight
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sworrall
Posted 7/30/2009 7:01 PM (#391448 - in reply to #390982)
Subject: Re: Creepers





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
I have both, and like both. The jointed model can be worked faster, I believe.
PSYS
Posted 7/30/2009 7:31 PM (#391455 - in reply to #390982)
Subject: Re: Creepers





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Location: APPLETON, WI
Are these lures only efficient and productive in very calm water/conditions?
JBush
Posted 7/30/2009 8:25 PM (#391465 - in reply to #391455)
Subject: Re: Creepers




Posts: 311


Location: Ontario
Buster's Wave Walker and Water Spider are pretty ridiculous too. The Wave Walker is just a big, goofy, loud, slow, ball of calories waiting to be digested. Musky Buster lures might be the most over-engineered lures I've seen. They are built beyond tough, excellent quality. I grabbed a jntd BS Willy off Demolished this spring and she'll get bitten too, very good and I agree about the wings, heavy duty.
Nobody has said it yet but if you have fish that want a slow, obnoxious crawl, take a 10" jntd Believer for a walk one night and see what you think. Old ones with no rattles work and so do the newer ones with a variety of rattles.
mota
Posted 7/30/2009 8:45 PM (#391469 - in reply to #390982)
Subject: Re: Creepers


jointed is better in the waves
firstsixfeet
Posted 7/30/2009 9:03 PM (#391473 - in reply to #390982)
Subject: Re: Creepers




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You can fish a good creeper at a pretty good rate, if the wings are good and creeper is good, you can nearly stay clear of the water. Just a little before dark, and on a dark day, both are good. Creepers get sold but not fished as much as they were in prior times. I personally am more likely to go to a hawg wobbler for the same task, and better hooking than a creeper. But if you get a creeper working good, stay with it, I wished I had more opportunity to fish them.

Sinking creepers aren't unusual if they are on the heavy side, they come down like a rock and go under water initially on the landing. You can either control the cast and the tragectory to lessen the sinking, give it a second to surface, or start your retrieve at a very slow rate allowing bouyancy to carry it back up to the surface as it moves. Another thing contributing to the creeper staying down is the wings being too close to 90 degrees from the body. They should forn an acute angle, I'm wildly guessing at about 55-60 degrees to the body side. This, and tilting the surface of the wing downward slightly will bring a creeper right up to the surface. Too close to 90 and too flat ,and you will have a bait that plows, and wants to stay under as you start retrieving, and it will also want to spin.

Currently I use a cheap hi fin, a Gutsch, and a Bauer Creeping Hawg(sort of smallish). The Gutsch is the best of the three, but it has to be tuned, and the wings become a little less rigid over time, and pulling it out of reeds, weeds etc. will generally detune it. I like the Bauer simply because it is more stable and easier to tune than the other two, sound is a little different, no big bloop bloop. There look to be some great creepers on the market these days. I would think some of the longer bodied baits would be very attractive and effective in rougher water. Day or night.

Edited by firstsixfeet 7/30/2009 9:08 PM
bassinbob84
Posted 7/30/2009 10:50 PM (#391497 - in reply to #390982)
Subject: Re: Creepers




Posts: 646


Location: In a shack in the woods
How do you figure 8 a follower with a creeper? I tried sticking it below the surface and the fish took off.

I had a chance to use that lee lures creeper tonight and really like it. It sounds like a xylophone in the water.
JKahler
Posted 7/31/2009 12:03 AM (#391503 - in reply to #390982)
Subject: Re: Creepers




Posts: 1286


Location: WI
I just do an extended L-turn, or try and walk it around the boat. All the ones I've tried to fig 8 started spinning as soon as you took them subsurface.

Creepers are good for fish porposing, I've had a good number of strikes and follows in those situations.
muskie24/7
Posted 7/31/2009 11:02 AM (#391562 - in reply to #391503)
Subject: Re: Creepers





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Anyone have luck with the ones from Tacklebooty? (Krakens)

Brian
Muskerboy
Posted 7/31/2009 11:28 AM (#391564 - in reply to #390982)
Subject: Re: Creepers





Posts: 727


I have a Kraken and its been in the water alittle. I've had one fish nail it but the (non) hookup was my fault. It sounds pretty good in the water.
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