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| Hi guys I was just TAing at the Wausau School Forest when Mr. Maney and Mr. Nelson started the deer necropsy. We soon got to the eyes of the deer when Mr. Maney then showed us that the back of the retina and how you can see what colors the deer can't see very well by the colors that are on the deers retina, these colors being orange, blue, yellow, green... My real question is has anyone done this test for a muskie? I thought this test would be very helpful for making wise bait color choices.
Thanks for the posts,
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Location: Almond, WI | Not sure if that specific test has been done on muskies before but their vision has been studied. My understanding is that muskies see in color about as well as we do, and see a little better at night, so do bass. Walleyes don't see in color as well but see at night a little better. Northerns have poor night vision but their day vision is good. Remember though, water absorbs light frequencies at different rates. ROY G BIV is the order light gets absorbed (first to last), but sedimentation, algae blooms, etc. have an effect on the precise depths they get absorbed at. There was a thread on light/color a week or two ago here on either the general or the biology forum. I'd look for that for some detailed info. |
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Location: Yahara River Chain | Dr Jerry Bucholtz a doctor from the Marshfield Clinic in Marshfield, WI has a presentation about the muskie eyesight. I'm not sure if he is doing that these days, but did that in the 90s.
Also we know that they muskie has real good night vision. If you look at a pictures taken of a muskie at night with a flash not only is the person's but the muskie's eyes are red as well. |
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Location: lake x...where the hell is it? | do walleyes see the best at night or muskys? i have always heard that skis use there line more then anything else to locate pray at night and day? anyone know? |
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| I don't see what their eyes being red in a picture has to do with anything. Blue penetrates deepest of all colors, otherwise tyler is right. Walleyes see better than muskies at night because of the design of their eyes. Animals whos eyes glow when light is shined on them have a reflector at the back of the eye called the tapitum lucidum. Their eyes "see" the light input twice. Fish eyesight is not exactly the same as ours, but the colors they see are the same. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | If there is any significant color available. Under the water is an alien environment for most, not as much color available as one might think.
Jerry came up with an interesting theory.. |
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Location: VA | Not trying to change back to the deer, but them not seeing green very well makes no sense. Why would nature create an animal that lives in, and eats green things all it's life and not be able to see them well? I don't buy it. Orange, yellows and blues....those I can understand.
I too think a Musky can see just as well if not better than we can. It's my understanding that the colder the water is, the better a fish can see.
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| Not sure that the theory of retinal colors correlating with the inability to see those colors is true. All the human retinas that I have seen have been black. Most of us can see black. I think color blindness takes place on a microscopic, chemical and molecular level. Also, color blindness means you still see the object, just in shades of gray, black and white. So even if deer and musies have some color blindness, they could still see the object, just not in color. Plus, given the effect of light perception underwater, it becomes way too confusing to me. Aren't colors more for the fisherman than the fish, anyway. |
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| The back of our retina is black because we cannot see in the dark well. The deer retina is not black because it can see well in the dark. I also think that a muskie's retina would not be black since I think it doesn't just use its lateral line to hunt at night but uses its eyes about the same amount as its line. I don't know just my two cents. |
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