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Curly
Posted 3/3/2009 6:18 PM (#363976)
Subject: X190 Tandem or Single Trailer


This is more of poll question. I am asking because I am curious as to how this may affect resale.

I understand the benfits of each...but am close to choosing between this boat and an 1860 Angler. (which comes on a single trailer 99% of the time) But I want to make sure I make the best choice for trailer options based on resale-ability.

The Tuffy X190 is suited for either a single or tandem trailer, either will serve this boat well. That said.

If you were interested in purchasing a new/used X190, what would be your preference? Single or tandem axle trailer

Thank you... I appreciate the feedback
Steve Jonesi
Posted 3/3/2009 6:34 PM (#363984 - in reply to #363976)
Subject: Re: X190 Tandem or Single Trailer




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I like the single axle for a few reasons. Maneuverability is much better on a single axle, initial cost is lower and maintenance is less.I have a single axle on my 620T and the guy I bought it from said he could have sold it 3 times if it had a tandem. 75-80 MPH on the Interstate and no sway whatsoever. Single axle-#4500 while the tandem is #5000.Tandems look better perhaps but I'll take utility(and cost) over looks. Now to answer your question... cost difference??? based soley on resale, I'd have to say go with the tandem. Better "shelf appeal".
TJ DeVoe
Posted 3/3/2009 6:48 PM (#363991 - in reply to #363984)
Subject: Re: X190 Tandem or Single Trailer




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Location: Stevens Point, WI
This boat only weighs 1300 pounds, add a motor at about 500 and your tackle, other gear and gas, it might come to about #2200 lbs. total, maybe a touch more. The need for a tandem with this boat is not needed. The X190 is a light boat, especially in the bow of the boat, you'll have a lot of bouncing at the tongue since majority of your weight is towards the back.

Boats that are in need of a tandem axle are those pushing the #2000lb. mark without a motor and gear. The Tuffy 1890 and 2060 along with the Ranger 619,620, and the 621 all deserve a tandem under it.

The cost just isn't worth it in my opinion. With that said, the tandem does make it look nicer and the sway of the boat won't be as bad when your running at higher speeds, but how often are you going 75-80? If your fishing local waters, your probably not doing that kind of speed. I also know in northern Wisconsin, you won't get a tandem into some landings, that to me is a downfall tremendously.

As for resale on the boat, I personally don't think it matters with this rig. My Tuffy 1760 DW was only available with a single and that boat was heavier than this X190, it performed just fine. The tandem would just be total overkill for THIS rig, imho.

Edited by TJ DeVoe 3/3/2009 7:13 PM
Curly
Posted 3/3/2009 7:08 PM (#363996 - in reply to #363976)
Subject: RE: X190 Tandem or Single Trailer


Steve...

Good to hear from you and thanks for the reply. I heard the same thing the guy you bought your 620 from when I was trying to sell my 690. I had the single on my 690 and it worked just fine, but when it came to resale....I just didn't get it, but I heard the same thing.

Ironically; The new Angler 1860's are heavier than my old 690 and they are 99% single axle from Ranger. Change in thought process from the consumer or forced by the manufacturer. People trust Ranger so they will accept it if it's the mainstream package. Like we both know... either trailer will function just fine.

Cost to upgrade/downgrade at purchase is around $800. So it's not going to break the bank for me when I buy the rig but, I want "more desireable" in 4-5 years down the road.

Thanks man...we need to get together one of these days. I haven't been to the big pond in a few seasons now, I been hangin' in Canada when not around home... need to get back over buy you.

Mark
Eau Claire
Top H2O
Posted 3/3/2009 7:25 PM (#364002 - in reply to #363996)
Subject: RE: X190 Tandem or Single Trailer




Posts: 4080


Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion
Four tires are ALWAYS better than two...because when a tire blows(and it will) You won't loose the boat .....and it WILL be a better ride .

I put about 50-60,000 miles a year while pulling a trailer or boat and have had my share of tire problems, but having the extra axiel and tires HAVE saved my arse more than a few times........ Go with the extra tires, This is a no brainer.

Jerome
Cowboyhannah
Posted 3/3/2009 7:55 PM (#364009 - in reply to #363976)
Subject: Re: X190 Tandem or Single Trailer





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Location: Kronenwetter, WI
Depends on the size of my garage. If I need to angle the boat, no way I'd ever get a tandem trailer again. If I can back in, swing-away the tounge and be done, I'd go with dual axel---I've run 'em both and the advantages are as you'd expect...really the deal breaker is if it would fit in my garage w/o angling it---my current boat requires I angle it and then swing away the tongue in order to shut the door and it is no fun.

Edited by Cowboyhannah 3/3/2009 7:57 PM
lambeau
Posted 3/3/2009 8:11 PM (#364018 - in reply to #363976)
Subject: Re: X190 Tandem or Single Trailer


The cost just isn't worth it

well, it really doesn't cost all that much more to get a tandem, especially as a percentage of the total purchase. it's not as important as maxing out the motor or picking a color that appeals to lots of people, but people do look at these kinds of details and the trailer might be a decision-point for someone between two similar used rigs (same thing with fiberglass vs aluminum trailer fenders). the cost is definitely worth if it means selling your boat sooner or for more money.

as for performance, i've owned both tandem and single axle trailers, and i cover a lot of interstate miles each year.
the ride at any highway speeds is definitely better with the tandem, it just plain rides smoother. the ease of movement with the single is obviously better, you can hand rotate it around in the garage or a driveway, etc.

my X-190 last year was on a single axle, and it was plenty adequate for that boat. it's great to have the option.
and this year's boat will be on a tandem, mostly because i'll be traveling more this year for tournament fishing and want the ride benefits, but also because i like the look of it better. i will also buy an axle lifter so that i can get one set of wheels off the floor when i need to move the boat around the garage by hand...best of both worlds!
Curly
Posted 3/3/2009 9:01 PM (#364033 - in reply to #364018)
Subject: Re: X190 Tandem or Single Trailer


I'm fortunate in that moving it in the shop isn't a consideration, I have more than enough room. But that wasn't always the case and for many years I had to fight the garage issue.

Mike....What the heck is an "axle lifter"? When I had Sluggo's 620 stored in my shop I would just crank the jack all the way down and I could swing it without too much difficulty...X-190 being significantly lighter I suspect would move even easier. But I"m curious about the Axle Lifter.

From a re-sale standpoint... I believe ya'all have helped me confirm what I already suspected.

Thanks
lambeau
Posted 3/3/2009 9:43 PM (#364038 - in reply to #363976)
Subject: Re: X190 Tandem or Single Trailer


i saw something (forget where or what it's called) that helps take the weight off the front axle for tandem trailers, allowing you to turn them more easily side to side in the garage.
i suppose cranking the front end up real high might help accomplish the same thing.
Cowboyhannah
Posted 3/4/2009 9:57 PM (#364267 - in reply to #364038)
Subject: Re: X190 Tandem or Single Trailer





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Location: Kronenwetter, WI
lambeau - 3/3/2009 9:43 PM
i suppose cranking the front end up real high might help accomplish the same thing.


Actually one trick I learned in to drop the front end all the way DOWN. Not sure why it works, but it does....takes pressure off the rear axel I'd guess
sworrall
Posted 3/4/2009 11:12 PM (#364283 - in reply to #363976)
Subject: Re: X190 Tandem or Single Trailer





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
That actually lifts the rear axle off the ground,
Mark H.
Posted 3/5/2009 1:19 PM (#364395 - in reply to #364283)
Subject: Re: X190 Tandem or Single Trailer




Posts: 1936


Location: Eau Claire, WI
Yup, what Steve said. That's how I was able to move my buddy's 620 around in my shop when I stored it for him. Don't think it took all the pressure off the rear axle but it was enough that I was able to swing it without much difficulty.
cbuf
Posted 3/5/2009 6:40 PM (#364457 - in reply to #363976)
Subject: Re: X190 Tandem or Single Trailer





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tandem all the way, save bearing, tires, gas (less weight per tire). I had a heavey bass boat with dual axle, I loved trailering it. Then I got a tuffy with a single tuffy trail I hated toughing the thing long distances. It was servey when passing people at high speeds.

My two cents.

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