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| I recently bought a used 6" Phantom at a swap/meet. How do I work this bait? (I already have stiff wire leaders and a stiff-tipped rod.)
Do I pull it and reel? Long jerks? Short jerks, or taps? Side to side jerks, or taps?
I tried a 6" Newman glider last year. Naively, I thought the lure would glide smoothly from side to side when retrieved. Big surprise at the reality.
Thank you for any help. |
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| Short taps. Downward angle or slightly to the side. If you can SNAP the rod down you'll get that little guy doing some crazy things. |
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Location: Norway | As esox50, short taps. What I often do, cast out, let it sink alittle, 2-3hard rips, upwards, this reaally makes it look like a spastic, dying baitfish and it gets it closer to the surface again, if that is desireable.
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Location: Smith Creek | Agreed, taps. And I started converting a lot of follows into strikes when I slowed it down. |
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Location: madison wisconsin | Again as Esox 50. When you get that SNAP, the bait will often give a nice roll..... Then SMASH!!!!!! Hopefully.... Great bait. |
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Location: Eau Claire, WI | snapping or twitchin it up to finish the retrieve just out from the boat is a good move. a lot of fish show up at the end of it. I think the vertical movement up to the surface is a trigger.
Jono
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| Try everything you said ! If all you get is follows then switch it up. that perfect walk the dog thing that everyone wants to see, usually gets followed and not bit. work that thing, make it dance and get it going crazy at times! A live wounded baitfish don't do the walk the dog thing like a Manta! This is only my opinion!
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Location: Oregon | Throw the bait out just a short distance so you can see it. Now, with your rod tip low, give the rod a short downward tap, the lure will go dart one way, downward tap again and it will go the other way. Between taps, take up the slack with your reel, so it is tap, tap.......................tap, tap, tap, tap, tap................................etc. Start slow and watch the bait, you will see that each time you tap the rod the bait goes one way and if you tap it soon enough it will dart back the other way. Some glide baits are much easier than others to do this with.......I think the Phantom falls somewhere in the middle of difficulty. The easiest bait out there to work is the Manta IMHO.
Here is a video I did many years ago of a BeerBelly Glider which gives you an idea of how a glider can work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M7bHWrpD0M
Jed V.
Edited by RiverMan 2/14/2009 1:31 PM
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Location: Skellefteå , sweden | I have used the softtail version of the phantom and I give it some twitches with some long pauses and then just reeling it in as fast as I can followed by a paus I dont like baits with to much side to side action .
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| Thanks to all for the responses. |
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| What i like to do is the normal "taps" but then make it extremely erratic and look like its trying to flee by giving it a real hard pull this makes the bait move forward fast with a nice belly roll and finishes by going back to the side. Its worked for me when a fish is following and will not strike my normal "taps". |
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| short taps work really well on the phantoms |
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| not sure if anyone else mentioned it, but phantoms work well with taps or short taps.... |
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| work em fast....fish like em movin |
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Location: Aurora, IL. | If I told ya I'd have to kill ya!
Everyone has made great suggestions, but the fish will tell you if your doing it right.
I've fished working a steady cadence (fast) in walk the dog fashion and caught lots of fish. I've worked it in an erratic fashion and caught fish. Sometimes they want side to side sometimes they want up and down, sometimes they want glide sometimes not. (why do these fish keep sounding like women I know) You got to try it all until you establish a pattern.
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| A good one worked right will actually suspend upside down, Talk about belly roll.
Work it fast and it gets going side to side Tapping up will do different things than down so mix them up. Do the thing that makes it flip over pause it upside down, rip it, and it flips back over, and shoots off to one side or the other. Tap tap a few time and repeat.
a stone cold killer |
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| Consider everything thats been said, and you will realize there is no wrong or right! Throw it out and make it dance!
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| Ihate to say but I will . I let that it sink in the open water than reel in a nice pace.This lure works great like this .b
Edited by 0723 2/17/2009 4:10 PM
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Location: Minneapolis | The 6" phantom rocks. I like to use just my reel - a quick 1/2 turn snap, pause, snap. Maybe a rod tap. You can work it fast, or you can make it do a 180 in its tracks.
Contrary to most, I prefer a stranded leader.
I think the 6" phantom hooks better than the 8". Way lower incidence of getting "phantomized" - that's when the fish hits, is there for one head shake, then throws the 8". If the 8" didn't show me so dang many fish, I would stop using it just to cut down on being phantomized... |
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