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muskie24/7
Posted 2/21/2009 10:40 PM (#361994)
Subject: Throwing smaller lures!





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What type of set-up do you guys use for throwing the lighter baits? It seems like no matter how I adjust my shimano TE, It doesn't work to well for the lures 1oz. or less! Any advice or recommendations on adjustments or a different reel?

Thanks...Brian
Targa01
Posted 2/21/2009 11:22 PM (#362001 - in reply to #361994)
Subject: Re: Throwing smaller lures!





Posts: 742


Location: Grand Rapids MN
I have an Abu Record 61 on an 8' Fenwick MH (3/4-3oz) that works well. Really comfortable reel and it works well paired with the rod. I can still bomb Crane 205 & 206 and other light lures with it. Never had the pleasure to work a TE so I can't help you there, sorry.
sworrall
Posted 2/22/2009 12:10 AM (#362005 - in reply to #361994)
Subject: Re: Throwing smaller lures!





Posts: 32890


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Okuma 250 Induron on a MH Okuma Muskie stick. Tosses the light stuff a mile, tougher than nails.
jay lip ripper
Posted 2/22/2009 1:02 AM (#362007 - in reply to #361994)
Subject: Re: Throwing smaller lures!





Posts: 392


Location: lake x...where the hell is it?
you got a $250-300 reel and cant throw 1oz baits with it? i guess i will never get one of them!!! try a bass reel, revo maybe.
scolba
Posted 2/22/2009 6:40 AM (#362014 - in reply to #361994)
Subject: Re: Throwing smaller lures!




Posts: 122


Location: Bloomington, IL
I use a heavy flippin stick w\ a Quantum Tour Edition PT. I use that for the real small stuff.... The rod says up to 1 oz, but I really use it for up to 1.5 oz or so.
gtp888
Posted 2/22/2009 6:58 AM (#362015 - in reply to #361994)
Subject: RE: Throwing smaller lures!





Location: Sun Prairie, WI
24/7...I would think this has more to do with the rod than the reel.

Edited by gtp888 2/22/2009 7:01 AM
muskie24/7
Posted 2/22/2009 8:51 AM (#362029 - in reply to #362015)
Subject: RE: Throwing smaller lures!





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gtp888 - 2/22/2009 7:58 AM

24/7...I would think this has more to do with the rod than the reel.


I was using a 7' 6" MH rod with the Shimano reel! What do you guys suggest?

Brian

Edited by muskie24/7 2/22/2009 8:54 AM
tuffy1
Posted 2/22/2009 9:01 AM (#362031 - in reply to #362029)
Subject: RE: Throwing smaller lures!





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Location: Racine, Wi
I throw the light stuff with the same rods I throw most everything else with. I throw 6" slammers and lip rippers with either an 8' XH All Star or an 8'6" XH Okuma and both throw them well. I typically don't bomb cast these baits though as I'm usually fishing shallower and to pin point areas (or slop). You do have to adjust the way you throw them and can't whip them too hard. I do get plenty of distance with them though with those set ups. I'm throwing them on an Okuma Enduron as well.
sorenson
Posted 2/22/2009 9:03 AM (#362032 - in reply to #362029)
Subject: RE: Throwing smaller lures!





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Location: Ogden, Ut
muskie24/7 - 2/22/2009 7:51 AM

gtp888 - 2/22/2009 7:58 AM

24/7...I would think this has more to do with the rod than the reel.


I was using a 7' 6" MH rod with the Shimano reel! What do you guys suggest?

Brian


It depends on what you are classifying as 'small'. I probably routinely throw smaller baits as much as anyone. I use an Okuma Telescoping 8'6" Heavy for most of my work down to J-13 Rapalas. Small Cranes, Slammers, and Big Games are not a problem until the wind comes up. Small bucktails (by today's standards, I would guess Mepps Musky killer is considered small) work fine w/ this rod too. I think it is important to let the rod do the work and not try to stretch your cast distances. That's where you'll notice it, if the rod won't load, you need to get a lighter action one to effectively use the lure in question. An Induron 400 reel sits on it.
S.
gopackgo
Posted 2/22/2009 9:20 AM (#362035 - in reply to #361994)
Subject: Re: Throwing smaller lures!





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Not sure what the issue is -- I can throw mepps #5s forever using my 400te on a 7'6" avid rod. You might consider sending your reel in for a check up if it's not thowing smoothly. That TE should be good to throw just about anything, big to small.
muskie24/7
Posted 2/22/2009 9:50 AM (#362039 - in reply to #362035)
Subject: Re: Throwing smaller lures!





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Gopack, I just got the TE out of the shop for a good clean and lube job, I haven't tried the small stuff with it yet! Maybe I'll go out in the fresh snow and try it today! I love the neighbors watching me out the window anyways! I'll let everyone know! Thanks to all!

Brian Gilmore
Johnny_B
Posted 2/22/2009 10:29 AM (#362043 - in reply to #361994)
Subject: Re: Throwing smaller lures!




Posts: 115


I use a St Croix Flipping stick LTBC711HMF and a Curado 300. Works well for Rapalas, Cranes, small Jakes, small bucktails and jigs.
STUSHSKY
Posted 2/22/2009 10:58 AM (#362048 - in reply to #362043)
Subject: Re: Throwing smaller lures!




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a croix legend built on the mega swimbait "bass" blank and a small shimano 201dhsv 7:1 ratio reel with 65lb braid. that combination weighs in at less than alot of reels do alone and i need binoculars to see where a small mepps musky killer buck lands back in the day when i fished for trout the difference between a reel with 4lb test throwing a tiny bait was huge vs. that same reel / rod / bait with 8lb. test. same applies with the above on the "musky" scale of things...

Edited by STUSHSKY 2/22/2009 11:44 AM
muskie24/7
Posted 2/22/2009 12:08 PM (#362058 - in reply to #362048)
Subject: Re: Throwing smaller lures!





Posts: 909


STUSHSKY - 2/22/2009 11:58 AM

a croix legend built on the mega swimbait "bass" blank and a small shimano 201dhsv 7:1 ratio reel with 65lb braid. that combination weighs in at less than alot of reels do alone and i need binoculars to see where a small mepps musky killer buck lands back in the day when i fished for trout the difference between a reel with 4lb test throwing a tiny bait was huge vs. that same reel / rod / bait with 8lb. test. same applies with the above on the "musky" scale of things...[/QUOTE}

I have to agree with you on this!

Thanks

Brian Gilmore
Dre322
Posted 2/22/2009 1:23 PM (#362066 - in reply to #361994)
Subject: Re: Throwing smaller lures!




Posts: 117


i been using a shimano cardiff 401a i am a lefty. Good price you can bomb and have precision casts with that reel. My 2 cents. Good luck!
MuskieMedic
Posted 2/22/2009 1:56 PM (#362073 - in reply to #361994)
Subject: Re: Throwing smaller lures!





Posts: 2091


Location: Stevens Point, WI
I use an Abu Record and a GLoomis 7' 8" MH rod.
Beaver
Posted 2/22/2009 5:28 PM (#362092 - in reply to #362073)
Subject: Re: Throwing smaller lures!





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I have a couple of 8' St Croix In-Shore rods that are designed to throw light stuff and yet have enough guts to fight big fish. I'm using Abu 5500's and smaller Lunas and TE's with no problems throwing lures as small as #4 Mepps.
knooter
Posted 2/22/2009 6:22 PM (#362098 - in reply to #361994)
Subject: Re: Throwing smaller lures!




Posts: 531


Location: Hugo, MN
It's all about balanced tackle, all around. A lighter rod will load up better with the small baits. I'd stick with a MH action for small stuff, and probably drop to 65#, maybe even 50# braid for that stuff. Don't be afraid of the lighter line when it's paired with a lighter action rod. You'd have a hard time breaking 50# braid with a MH rod. Most line breakage occurs because of backlashes with heavy baits, or on strong hooksets with stiff rods. I throw my jigs with an old 7'6" All Star Western Inshore rod that is rated as a heavy fast, but feels more like a MH moderate action. I have a Curado 300dsv on that rod, with 50# test Tufline. When I first rigged it up, all I had on hand was some 80# braid, and it casted poorly. I switched it out to 50# and it casts a mile now. The 400te should be fine for the lighter stuff if it's paired with an otherwise balanced setup.
joel
Posted 2/23/2009 11:56 AM (#362205 - in reply to #362098)
Subject: Re: Throwing smaller lures!




Posts: 73


Location: sw pa
i think knooter is right on target! i think ill be putting lighter line on my MH rod and reel setup. i use 80# and it throws like kordell stewart used to throw on a sunday afternoon! Horrible....

Edited by joel 2/23/2009 11:58 AM
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