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| Hi all I am having a tough time looking for a rod and wondering if anyone could help me out. What I am looking for is an all purpose rod that is 8ft with the ratings being at 1-8oz also my price range is about up to $180.
Thanks in advance guys |
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| Don't know how soon you are looking to get your hands on a rod, but Musky Armor and myself are working on a rod right now.
I am a one rod type of guy. 1 rod to throw smaller lures to Mag Dawgs and such. That is what I am working on right now...a sort of "utility" rod.
Mike Hulbert |
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| When do you think you guys will have it completed?
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| Don't know how soon you are looking to get your hands on a rod, but Musky Armor and myself are working on a rod right now.
I am a one rod type of guy. 1 rod to throw smaller lures to Mag Dawgs and such. That is what I am working on right now...a sort of "utility" rod.
A little bird said that they're going to have fat cork, too.
Nice idea. |
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Location: syracuse indiana | rods are good with fat cork and if you get fumbly figers or client do .. they float is all i can say..bill |
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Location: Minnesota | I like my bulldawg rod - for the money it is a great rod. I think I paid about $135 for mine. |
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Location: Dixon, IL | I just bought a 8 ft BullDawg rod for $150! I like it very much. St.Croix rods is also good, too! |
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Location: Hugo, MN | I think the Okuma 8'6" Heavy action Telescopic rod is rated for that. It's a sweet rod, and costs around a hundred bucks. I think the new St. Croix Premier 8 foot heavy action is rated for about that, too. Either rod would be very versatile. |
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| Tweety, or whoever you are,
The rods will be offered in two different cork sizes, at least right now that's the direction I am heading with them. Some like thick cork, some don't so I am planning on offering them in both sizes of cork....GOOD IDEA...
I will keep you posted about them, and when they are expected to be completed.
HULBERT |
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| Let me throw a thought in here about "all purpose" rods. What you're looking for is probably not possible. The first job of a rod it to throw the lure effectively. In order for the rod to do this it must "load" to the weight of the lure you're casting. While I can certainly throw a 1 oz. lure with a rod designed to handle baits up to 12 oz. the rod will not load enough to cast that light lure as efficiently as one with a lower rating. I think that what you're getting at is that you want a rod that you can use for a wide range of lures and perhaps throw bigger (or lighter) stuff on occasion. My suggestion would be to decide what the largest size bait that you will be throwing on a regular basis and try to match your rod choice from there down. For example if you're throwing mag Bulldawgs a lot (approx. 8 oz.) then find a rod that will be at that rating or very near and with the widest range down to the lower end. Now if you're mostly throwing 2-6 oz baits with only going over that or under from time to time it will probably open up more rod choices for you.
Also remember that there is no standardization in ratings from one manufacturer to the next and each company rates their rods at what they believe the rod will handle. Some companies rate their rods very conservatively and some rate them with very liberal standards. From a practical standpoint I've found that St. Croix is usually the most realistic in terms of what power and action works best with the lure ratings they suggest. That doesn't mean that other companies are lying about the ratings but St. Croix seems to take all factors into account including the efficiency of casting not just how much weight you can load on a rod until it breaks.
I'd be very interested in responses to my "take" on this from knowledgeable rod guys. Frank B are you out there? |
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Location: Apollo, PA | Call or email Keith from Professional Edge. He'll put you in a custom that you can afford and it will be sweet........ |
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| One of the best rod posts I have seen Pete.
That is exactly how I start every conversation. What is the biggest bait you plan on throwing? From there you can get into more sticks that are lure weight specific.
Nice job Pete.
Keith |
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Location: Bartlett IL | Pete, I’m here.
You can tell Pete has put his time on the water to good use. That and working with customers every day makes him a wealth of knowledge that he is always sharing.
Let me add a little to his post. In addition to the weight of the lure you need to take into consideration the type of retrieve. Will you be using a steady retrieve, ripping the bait, a jerkbait or some combination? A slower action rod would be fine for a steady retrieve with a deep diving crank bait but not when ripping a lure. For that you would need a faster action rod so all the work of ripping the bait is not absorbed by the tip. For jerkbaits or walk the dog surface baits I like a stiffer tip so you can really make the bait dance.
Then don’t forget about the figure eight. You want a rod that does not load up too much because of the resistance of the lure so there’s something left for the hookset.
And when fighting the fish you need enough tip action to keep the fish pinned. The tip needs to be soft enough to make up for our mistakes and the boat side antics of the fish we are chasing. I have said it before – the St. Croix XXXH was good for throwing pounders but not for fighting the fish since it is so stiff.
All that said it is difficult to get one rod to throw everything and do it well. With all the new blanks from Loomis, St. Croix and others there are many choices. Talk to a number of people and get their opinions. Start out with one rod that covers a good portion of your lure choices and then add one or two to complete your arsenal and you will be set for a long time. That is until everyone wants 10-footers.
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| You know it should be up to the guy using the rod. If they feel that they can effectively throw all of their baits with one rod so be it. And if some one needs 12 different rods then let them. I myself feel that I can comfortably use one rod to go from mag dawgs to DCG's to 6" minow baits all day and work the baits the way they should be, at least the fish think so! I think Hulbert has a good idea and if he can make it work then good for him! I would be one to look at the finished product.
Chris |
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