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Location: Northern Illinois | I have a few of the Mayhem dbl cowgirls but was wondering what you guys thought about the other baits out there? Namely, the mojo XX's vs. Spanky baits vs. the DC10 from Llungen. Has one proven to be "better" than the others? More durable, blades start easier, etc.. I also noticed on the SpankyBaits that the top hook is attached via a clevis. I know that Eagletails have been built like this for years but what are your thoughts on a big fish snapping the clevis?? I don't own a XX but from looking at them they look to be pretty bulletproof, is this assumption correct? |
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Location: midwest | They are all well built baits. Just make sure when you are purchasing them that the componenets are equal. A lot of the cheaper models out there use thin flashabou that can easily turn into a complete mess (tangles with itself and the hooks in a short time). Make sure the builder uses magnum flashabou or saltwater flashabou. That being said I have looked at "Spanky Baits" and they seem very well built with the correct flash material and I don't believe you will have any problems with the clevis-hook attachment. If this setup bothers you request that it is built using the split ring hook attachment setup that the other manufacterers use and they should take care of your request. |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | If you are unsure about the clevis, bend it off and replace it with a split ring. |
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| Don't take any chances with the clevis they will break. |
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Location: Yahara River Chain | RyanJoz - 4/14/2008 12:30 PM
If you are unsure about the clevis, bend it off and replace it with a split ring.
Why do this? Just add the split ring and leave the clevis there for extra insurance if you are worried about that clevis failing?
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Location: midwest | "Guest" Have you had an eagle tail clevis to hook connection fail on you? |
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Location: On your favorite spot | In building and redoing a few, I would never trust a clevis to hold a hook. Even the biggest ones just aren't that strong.
As far as other types of double 10s - I'm a big fan of the marabou and like it over the tinsel or silicon when it gets to waving around behind the blades, more of a personal preference, but I'll throw any of them with confidence.
Edited by Marc J 4/14/2008 8:45 PM
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| The clevis discussion is a moot point. Spanky Baits ditched the clevis and is now using a split ring. I double-checked and all the '08 version Spankies I have are all sporting the split-ring attachment. I never had any problems with the clevis, but I think enough people were worried about it that they made the switch to split rings. The durable blades and the beefy, heavy-duty wire are what got me to switch. The split rings are an improvement, depending on what you thought of the clevis. |
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Location: Northern Illinois | I really don't know if the clevis is a big deal or not...that is why I asked if anyone had ever had one break. I was just thinking that as long as i'm using 100 lb stealth and 130 lb floro that every "possible" weak leak should be eliminated............ |
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| One word in regards to attatching a hook by a clevis.........TORQUE. If I can break them off with my hands, a big fish will do the same. Eventually. Great job Dan on switching to rings. Firefly Baby!!!! Steve
Edited by Steve Jonesi 4/15/2008 9:21 AM
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| Yes, I have had them break on Double 10 baits and not Eagletails. I only own a few Eagletails and they rarely get used. |
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| I test lures for Dan at Spanky Baits and we realized last year that the clevis were a potential issue. I broke the clevis on two baits. Both were due to fish torquing on the lure in the net. We never lost a fish due to the issue, but Dan made the right decision to invest the cost into correcting a potential issue. I cut the clevis off my old lures and replaced them with split rings.
These are fish catching machines. There is one lure I've caught 7 fish on last year and it is no worse for the wear. I love the black blades because they have a heavy black paint with a white primer under the main paint. I actually scratch them intentionally to give contrast. You can't beat the quality for the price. Throw into the equation the almost limitless color combinations of custom ties/blades and you have an unbeatable package.
Check out the lures by Googling "Spanky Baits". Give Dan a call and he will hook you up. Have a great season and stick some pigs! |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | How much of a difference do y'all think differnt color blades make? In ordering blades, do I really need pink, red, green, blue, purple, yellow, white, black....or am I good with black, nickel, and brass? |
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Location: Chanhassen, MN | I recently ordered some new lures from Spanky Baits. The Fireball you can get in 8" and 11" with two different weights available for either model. The new baits come with a split ring for the front hook.
Check out their web site. www.SpankyBaits.com
You can custom order by picking your skirt color and blade color. Many choices.
They look great and are heavy duty. Can't wait to throw them |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | Esoxfly, I don't think color makes a difference as long as it is visible. When fish are hungry, fish are hungry. There are certain instances where I do feel that fish may be intrigued by colors they have not seen, but I do not feel that it is the determining factor in a bite or not a bite. |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | I'd agree with that Joz. I was just curious, with all the colors of blades out there. I know the lure/fly/blades/colors catch us first, then the fish, but didn't know if pink or green blades would make a difference.
I guess it doesn't matter now...I've already got them!!! LOL.
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| Black, black, and more black! This year I am throwing white and pink also. I thin color does make a difference. It can trigger a fish into hitting that may only be up to take a look at the lure. |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | Well I've got plenty of that tied up. I've got white and pink this year too. Everyone who sees the pink gives me a "WTF?" And I tell them pink is the new chartreuse! |
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| Check out Figure 8 "Big Mama's". We do use the clevices but we use the biggest ones made (#8), not the smaller version found on others, and we double them up as an insurance. I am not an engineer but please ponder this: with a split ring you have all the torque centered in one very specific place on the wire shaft creating a bending point that could cause issues and create a week spot - with the doubled up clevices you spread that point out on the shaft thus reducing the bending point on the shaft. I can't guarantee that something will never break but I am very confident that this is a very durable system without a single failure that we know about. Please let us know if any of you have had this system fail.
Scott Karow
Figure 8 Lure Co.
www.figure8lurecompany.com
Edited by mskycrz 4/25/2008 10:58 PM
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