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CollegeMuskyHunter
Posted 4/7/2008 4:26 PM (#312137)
Subject: Finishing Bucktails???




I've been getting better at making bucktails that will stand up to a lot of casts it's just that the very finish looks horrible. I understand that a wipe finish is the best method it's just getting the cut ends of the bucktail to be completely covered up, the more I try to cover everything, the more the wraps start to come loose. Any help would be great for finishing this darn hair...
esox50
Posted 4/7/2008 4:30 PM (#312140 - in reply to #312137)
Subject: Re: Finishing Bucktails???





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Make sure you leave some coil or part of the hook shank exposed. Taper your wraps and finish them on the coil or hook shank... then do your whip finish and glue, glue, glue (or apply some epoxy).

Can you take some pics and post them?
Guest
Posted 4/7/2008 5:54 PM (#312163 - in reply to #312137)
Subject: RE: Finishing Bucktails???


It's all about the amount of pressure you apply to the thread. Tight pressure is obviously necessary to hold the hair in place, but try using a little less pressure when you start building up the nose of your thread cone ... you basically want to create layers of thread. It definitely takes practice! I probably ruined 50 baits before I got them looking nice. The good news is that the fish don't care.

Oh, and one last tip: use less hair than you think is necessary. On a coil you can apply the hair on each side (half at a time) with a few wraps until you get it all in place, and then you can start the wraps to cover it up. On a treble it's sometimes easier to do it in thirds. Either way, less hair is better than more.
Marc J
Posted 4/7/2008 5:55 PM (#312166 - in reply to #312140)
Subject: Re: Finishing Bucktails???





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your problem is not with finishing, it's with starting - USE SMALLER CLUMPS OF HAIR

your clumps are too big and when you tighten your end wrap, you're essentially squeezing out the middle part of the clump. go back to some of the bucks you've already tied and grab some of the hair on the inside, closest to the shank. bet you anything you can pull it out. if you use less hair with each clump, you'll be assured that the thread anchors all the hair, instead of hair anchoring hair. it's way too slick. i did the same thing until Mike Ruff (Rad Dog) showed me how to tie on coil. i was amazed at how little material is needed to get a quality tie.

if you use smaller clumps you'll find that you use less hair, it looks better, and cleans up really nice. i cut the tie of my coil, turn it upside down, and dip it in my gloss coat at least 3 times to really soak and harden that thread. if you insist on using a treble to tie on you can do the same thing, but that glob of thread will narrow your gaps and will cost you fish. i learned the hard way and i still think about that fish every single day.

Edited by Marc J 4/7/2008 5:57 PM
JimLang
Posted 4/7/2008 8:47 PM (#312189 - in reply to #312166)
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I realize you are talking hair, and I have only made a handful or two of baits with flashabou, but all I use are very small wire ties to attach the flashabou to the coil. I then drop a dab of glue and they hold up well...and catch fish too!!



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needa70lber
Posted 4/13/2008 7:40 PM (#313177 - in reply to #312189)
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
How do the weedless trebles work on catching fish instead of weeds.
JimLang
Posted 4/15/2008 12:25 PM (#313467 - in reply to #313177)
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Actually, the ones with the weedless hooks are still "virgin"...LOL. Have not thrown them yet. The only reason I used weedless hooks on these, is that the flashabou/tinsel on these is very limp and I thought would tangle quite easily with the front hook...so I'm playing around, if you will????
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